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<0> Is there someone who had tried clarckconnect ?
<1> not me
<2> suse used to be one of my favorite distros
<0> ubuntu best choice for newbie like me
<2> it was great when it was german, and novell has deimproved it IMHO
<1> ubuntu dont offer 64bit version for anything but amd processors :{
<2> ubuntu is definitely very good
<1> but they dont even support pentium 64bit :{
<2> ubuntu is available for amd64. I use
<3> hallo
<2> gentoo has great amd64 support
<3> Spam***asin can't fight with spam
<2> I also like the knoppix amd64 support
<1> what about pentium64 support?
<3> :((
<1> non of those support intel 64
<1> suse linux does
<2> if the pentium64 that you're talking about is em64, then yes it does
<4> jblack: Are you filtering into those at delivery time?
<5> Poseiden: Yeah.
<2> what's up indonesian?
<4> jblack: Yeah, that's too late. I need it at receipt.
<1> mine is a celeron :{
<5> I used to do at receipt. Changed that.
<5> gnobel: I forgot about that. intel 64 follows the amd spec.
<2> gnobel, the biggest problem with suse 64bit linux is that novell doesn't appear to be very committed to it
<5> gnobel: So you can use the amd64 distros
<2> opensuse has better support IMHO
<2> novell vacilates too much between novell and suse linux (which are basically the same thing under-the-covers)
<2> however, novell linux has a different desktop environment, and it's based off of gnome
<2> suse's desktop is based off of kde
<2> however, the kde that ships with suse is dated.
<6> heh, should've read up on mysql clusters a bit more before I started playing. Get together 3 machines, all installed and configured, only to find out fulltext indexes aren't allowed
<5> ouch
<6> ah well, interesting learning experience anyway
<2> also, if you'd like to use certain legacy applications that depend on PEX, GPHIGS, motif, etc, then you'll find yourself doing lots of tweaking
<2> let's just say that libiblio's archives for ancient distros became a wonderful resource--we ended up needing to back-port and then re-port several X utilities, apps, and libs to support libc5
<5> Oh?
<2> was that "Oh" in reply to what I just wrote?
<7> ne1 succesfully installed linux on ipod ?
<7> what does this mean mv /hp/podzilla /sbin
<7> rm /hp/start
<7> mv = move?
<6> nanopod: haven't tried yet. Will try once I get around to buying a new one
<7> what rm and mv
<6> no, linux onto an ipod
<6> mv = move
<2> yes mv = move, and rm = remove
<6> rm = remove
<4> nanopod: during the installation, you copy podzilla (which is the main program that allows you to see menus and such) into /hp/ (a directory). You have to do this for a number of reasons.
<4> nanopod: the first command ('mv /hp/podzilla /sbin') moves it into the directory /sbin. This is a better home for that program, in part because it is where your startup script expects to find it.
<4> nanopod: Then you get rid of an unnecessary script (/hp/start) by 'rm'ing it.
<4> nanopod: Once you have done those steps, in theory your iPod is bootable and running Linux (if you've done everythinge else). In practice, your mileage may vary.
<7> its for an update for podilla,, but i all i want is to install podzilla
<7> can i do that with that command
<1> does kubuntu come with a newish version of kde?
<4> nanopod: If you've copied the new version of podzilla onto the iPod, then yeah, that should work.
<1> im thinking of scrapping opensuse infavour of ubuntu or kubuntu
<7> Poseiden : even if i am not updating will it work ? i dont have a previous podzilla
<2> well, ubuntu and kubuntu definitely are nice
<2> they run just fine on my amd64 boxes
<4> nanopod: if everything else is running correctly, it should. Of course, if you don't have a startup script that fires up podzilla, then it won't do you much good.
<1> which is better kde or gnome?
<7> ok
<4> gnobel: yes
<7> thx
<1> why is ubuntu so much more popular?
<7> have u installed linux on ipod yourself ?
<4> gnobel: it came first?
<2> I suspect also because it came out first
<4> nanopod: yes, a couple of times. I've never been entirely successful, though. Came close once or twice.
<7> how come
<7> shouldnt it be easier to install from linux
<4> nanopod: no idea, and the developers were none too friendly.
<7> im gona install from windows
<7> have u tried video ?
<1> is kubuntu new then?
<4> nanopod: I was installing from windows. I ***ume it would be much easier from linux.
<7> oh
<7> what type of ipod do u have
<7> mine is nano
<4> nanopod: No, regular old 4g with a 40g.
<4> nanopod: The nano is the little tiny stick looking thing? I don't think that will run iPodlinux.
<7> iv read on forums that it can be done
<2> kubuntu is newer, but not new
<4> nanopod: Then I stand corrected. Good luck.
<7> linhttp://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5281&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
<7> is there any chance my ipod is broken
<4> nanopod: yes.
<7> or can i always reformat and restore
<4> nanopod: Always a chance that you've completely fubard it.
<7> is the warranty any good
<4> nanopod: No idea. Apple is not famous for its amazing warranties.
<8> :)
<2> :)
<8> sup?
<2> not much. just workin
<8> the same, but telecommuting today :)
<2> :)
<2> I wish I were telecommuting, but I'm not--and this is almost the 13th hour for me
<6> anybody here work much with xml? will be getting around to writing an app to load xml feeds into a database. Different feeds go to different tables etc. Anybody think it'd be a good idea to write one app and use something like DTD's or xmlschema to define tables and fields?
<4> Boredboy: "feeds"?
<6> probably not the best description of them. Basically external companies will supply xml files of data to be displayed on our search engine
<6> will be doing imports etc around 6 times a day
<4> Boredboy: Do they know they're doing it? If you're defining the schema, then a convention using different schemas is probably worse than overkill.
<4> Boredboy: unless I'm just not following your idea. Are the different companies supplying different _kinds_ of data?
<6> yes
<4> Boredboy: Like one is supplying a list of domains and another is supplying a list of encyclopedia articles?
<6> eg letting agency supplies houses, auto traders supply cars etc etc
<4> Boredboy: I see. So you want to know different things about different types of things - eg: gross acreage makes sense when talking about real estate, but not when talking about cars.
<6> so just wondering, for a code maintenance point of view, would it be better to write an app per import type or a single app and define the structures somewhere else
<5> Are you likely to have to reimport data again?
<4> Boredboy: Well the latter, obviously, but even that is almost certainly overkill. By that I mean that libraries already exist to do that hard work for you.
<6> jblack: imports will happen several times a day
<6> Poseiden: don't suppose you know of the name of these type of libs or what I should be googling for
<5> Then yeah, you want to centralize the work.
<6> never looked into xml this much
<4> Boredboy: what language will you be using?
<5> and setup interfaces for differnet types.
<6> Poseiden: they prefer php, but if I provide a decent argument, pretty much any I want
<4> Boredboy: expat. There are interfaces to it in php.
<4> Boredboy: There is something called "xmllib" that is an extensible xml library actually written _in_ PHP, but I can't imagine why that would be useful. Expat is fast, powerful, and mostly useable.
<4> Boredboy: http://us3.php.net/xml
<6> Poseiden: yea, expat seems to be the best available. Guess it's time to start trying it
<6> thanks for the input/ideas
<4> Boredboy: yeah, np.
<9> hello
<9> what is the address to
<9> connect to this irc server?
<10> clearly you know as you're already connected!
<11> ssh! you'll hurt his brain.
<9> benjy, #wollongong kick plasmoduck
<9> <plasmoduck> okay, then I guess you can't kick ops
<9> <plasmoduck> only regular users
<9> benjy, hmm i have to use a long address
<9> is there any better
<12> wikki, irc.dal.net
<9> yeah i tried irc.dal.net
<9> us.dal.net
<12> :<.dal.net
<1> bah no my celeron isnt compatable with most 64bit linux distributions
<1> suse linux will get it working...anything newer?
<9> :<.dal.net???
<9> should i try this?
<12> yes, for the dalnet emoticons
<2> gnobel, is your celeron 64bit?
<2> I thought celerons were 32bit
<5> There's a 64 bit celeron, believe it or not.
<5> And yeah, I had to check to believe it
<13> unbelievable
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