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<0> "severely medicated" ? Do you read what you type?
<1> poutine: non ms haters need to grow up
<2> I do.
<2> I'm psychic
<2> I read it before I type it.
<3> lol
<2> How's that for premium mind reading?
<3> shyheim: poutine thinks that if you run X then you're a retard
<0> no I don't
<0> you're putting words in my mouth
<3> <0> it has GUI clients if you're that retarded
<3> :)
<0> Al-Ashtar, Why do you interpret that to me saying, "I hate X"
<3> because X is a GUI ?
<0> Al-Ashtar, you're a sad man
<4> X isn't a GUI
<0> it's a protocol
<4> it's a protocol
<0> bam right in the kisser
<3> heheh
<1> X is for retards :)
<3> ok I'm sorry, let me rephrase
<2> X rocks you unbelievers!
<3> shyheim: poutine thinks that if you run a GUI then you're a retard
<0> I never said that either
<1> yeah
<1> people who code GUI programs are retards too
<5> g'nite
<0> perhaps you'd like to look at the selection of gift clients before judging my opinion in this
<3> perhaps you should stop judging people by the use of a gui
<1> poutine: you could've said the tex based versions are better, you didn't have to call me a retard :)
<0> also I designed, developed, and deployed a POS application which I made in C/GTK which is in use in multiple stores. I realize the need for user friendly GUIs, but they are just not justified in this instance.
<3> exactly
<6> skyheim looks like a troll to me.
<0> shyheim, You asked for the GUI version first before researching the project at all, that mentality is retarded
<7> a power supply swap shouldn't take more than 5 minutes unless you have a really messy case...
<7> grr, wrong window
<1> jblack: a troll? :S
<7> poutine looks like a troll to me.
<3> poutine: but since you hate stallman and linux so much, why do you design applications for the os ?
<0> Al-Ashtar, my POS systems no longer use linux
<0> that's a benefit of designing portable code, you don't have OS lock in
<1> ok so if newbie linux users come in here asking for support in regards to GUI programs, they are "retards"
<2> it's ok to hate stallman
<2> he's a jerk
<3> I always ask for a gui application
<0> shyheim, they are if they ask for a GUI before even researching a project
<1> poutine: maybe they don't know how to use tex based clients yet, maybe they wan't to experience GUI before they turn into a tex based monster like you
<3> heck when I search synaptic and find two application like let's say lokkit and gnome-lokkit
<3> I install the gnome one
<2> are we talking about tex as in latex
<2> or tex as in text
<1> text*
<0> there's nothing more to text clients than GUI clients, they both have different purposes, benefits and problems
<1> GUI is simply easier poutine
<0> you're limiting yourself to a small percentage of software available, and most of it is crap
<7> I wouldn't call it simply easier. many things are much easier typing rather than clicking.
<8> .
<1> well we all have our own opinions dudes
<0> my opinion is worth more than yours
<1> your opinion means nothing to me
<1> you retard
<0> lol
<0> present the red buttons and I will push them
<3> anyway poutine we've given a lot of our time which was wasted talking to a jerk like you
<3> let's get back to topic
<7> no, your opinion is not worth more than anyone else's. anyone blatantly trolling ("<0> MS haters need to grow up") is not entitled to an opinion.
<0> <insert arbitrary topic vaguely related to linux>
<3> Isaac-Lew: so X is protocol which runs the gui ?
<3> +the
<0> randyg, it's not a blatant troll, liking one OS does not force you to hate another
<7> poutine: microsoft is an example of capitalism at its worst, something all comrades should hate.
<0> you act like a child who just bought air jordans claiming that they are so much better than pumas
<0> Bill Gates donates more money than anyone else in the USA
<0> perhaps the world
<0> to good causes as well
<3> let the butt kissing begin
<0> Are you going to go up to cancer patients and rip out their IVs because linux rulez! and M$ $+ink$?
<3> donate $1 mil, and rip off $10 bil in return
<3> hehehe
<7> bill gates also keeps more money for himself than just about anyone else in the world, which represents a significant portion of the entire's earth's resources being wasted.
<0> I think you're on some ego trip because you think you were born 10 years too late to be in his position, now you're left with a cubicle job where your skin is rotting and fusing to your chair
<0> you're all uninformed idiots
<0> go read the facts
<4> Gates's money isn't in cash, it's in Microsoft stock
<9> I hate to interrupt a good rant, but I was wondering if someone could help me remember how to daemonize a mysql process.
<4> & $40 billion dollars is not a significant portion of the world's resources
<0> I haven't used mysql since 3.x.x but then it was safe_mysqld --user=<mysql username> &
<9> right... but that places it as a user process that's killed when the session is gone.
<0> pg_ctl -D $PGDATA start <-what I use
<4> grog_7: use an init script
<3> poutine: are you helping for money or ego now ?
<7> 40 billion dollars is, figure, 10 dollars for every working person on the planet. given various conversions that means, what, each person on the planet has worked 5 hours solely in support of making bill richer, on average?
<4> randyg: and what about all of the other rich people & big companies?
<0> Al-Ashtar, I said occasionally I'll give answers, just because I want them to shut up and the pundits to continue with their attack on one of the most comp***ionate men in history
<7> Isaac-Lew: I never said he's the only capitalist pig on the planet, did I? :P
<0> if the product wasn't good, people wouldn't run it
<10> donate for reduce tax
<0> they can't even give linux away for free to a large majority of users
<4> randyg: & what percentage of your income have *you* donated to charity?
<7> poutine: that's false, and I think even you know it. marketing and other factors play large roles in the popularity of products.
<9> I have to admit (and not because of the help), I agree with poutine.
<1> poutine: most people don't realise they have a better choice
<9> while MS certainly has done a lot of harm to the software marketplace, it's done more than its fair share of good, as well.
<9> it leads the industry in a lot of fields, and creates standards that the rest of the world follow. gnome and kde are basically clones of the windows gui.
<7> Isaac-Lew: Not much of my income, quite a bit of my time. I've "worked" (for free) for a charity to provide food to low-income people with aids, to tutor students, to care for elderly (well, that one I got paid for, but it was very close to free), and I was, for a number of years, actively volunteering for the local volunteer fire department.
<11> that's debateable
<4> I think Microsoft has actually done more harm than good - however, Bill Gates & Microsoft are 2 separate entities
<4> randyg: so Bill Gates leaving Microsoft to head a charitable foundation *isn't* giving up a bit of HIS time?
<7> if I help one old lady cross the street, while pushing 73 of them out in front of cars, does that make me not a bad person?
<12> hrm ... don't know whats worse, accidently sneakin up on cops with a loaded ***ult rifle or this conversation ....
<12> think i'll go back outside
<4> randyg: bad analogy
<7> seems like a good one to me.
<7> many large companies occasionally donate to charity. good PR.
<4> & you didn't answer what I said about him leaving his job
<4> it's not like this is a new thing (see Carnegie, rockefeller & Ford)
<4> & look at Warren Buffett - I'm sure that a lot of the companies he invested in weren't shining paragons of corporate altruism
<3> Isaac-Lew: so X is protocol which runs the gui ?
<3> Isaac-Lew: so X is the protocol which runs the gui ?
<4> Al-Ashtar: I guess - you can find all this stuff on www.google.com/linux
<4> it's probably more complicated than that - what actually runs the GUI is software based on the X protocol (x.org usually) along with a desktop environment/window manager (gnome or kde for example)
<3> to better understand they layers from the command line to the gui, I can't find a page on that. xfree86.org doesn't have an explanation
<3> s/they/the
<13> n
<3> never mind
<3> found one
<3> brb
<14> Al-Ashtar : http://gallery.tehlunix.org/v/trips/palm2006/
<3> checking
<3> those pictures are really nice
<14> thanks.
<14> that's the best of the 400 pics I took. I may weed through 'em again and thin 'em out.
<3> cute kid :) like father like son
<14> thanks. :)
<3> your bikes are hooked ?
<14> Do you see his kid-size spandex? :D
<3> yeah, hehehe
<14> yeah. It's called a "trail a bike" or "tag a long" ... it lets me do the work so he can deal with the long distances without actually having to pedal.
<14> I'd get us a tandem with a crank kit... but "cheap" tandems are $800! *EEK!*
<7> heh, mig welder + two bikes + 1/2 hour = tandem. :P
<3> simmy: you were a group of bikers ?
<14> yep. there were about 800 of us.
<3> cool
<14> it was part of an organized ride. www.lmb.org/palm
<7> I've seen quite a few welded together tandems around here... just weld the headset of one to the seatpost tube of the other, a scrap across the bottom, throw a long chain across the largest sprockets on the cranks... heh.
<14> I wouldn't feel safe on something like that... especially with the amount of time we spend riding.
<7> heh. I live in hippieville. :)
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