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<0> robert_: a debugger
<1> so the logical thing to do with my harddrive is make the linux partition like 80 and the windows 20 so that i put my music and movies on my linux partition and windows will still be able to handle them well?
<2> is there a visual debugger?
<0> RaZorro: sure if you must dual boot just do this
<0> RaZorro: partition first
<0> RaZorro: then install windows, then linux
<3> RaZorro: my opinion would be to keep half half, and wait till you're sure before you dump windows all together
<4> damnit still cant get java workin
<0> or if you have partition magic repartition and then install linux
<5> RaZorro: I'd partition 80 as windows and 20 as linux .. and then mount windows partition from linux instead
<3> hmm, actually, there is a software package that i found better than partition magic
<3> gparted, a liveCD which works with more file systems
<3> and it is only 30 MB to download
<0> well he has ntfs
<0> so dont do it with gparted uelss youa re wiping
<5> RaZorro: that way you could run stuff from windows in linux using wine ..
<1> well i figured that it'd be smarter to do most in linux since windows can read/write to that drive a lot better than linux to an ntfs drive
<3> Cancel: gparted works with NTFS too, resizing and everything
<0> Cognition: been there done ethat too
<3> Cancel: and this time, i've been there and done that :)
<0> Cognition: read what I said
<1> i am wiping my harddrive, fyi
<2> bah
<0> Cognition: try doing your resise on the ntfs with data you want, its dice rolling
<5> RaZorro: try win32fs then , linux works best on that fs without any need of aditional module to load
<3> Cancel: been there done that, i've all the info, everythnig intact
<0> Cognition: its dice rolling
<0> even they say that
<3> Cancel: i don't buy that
<0> that should tell yous omething
<0> but what would they know
<0> yes you know better then the writers
<0> see how that works
<3> but then again, why argue :) i'm off for a quick snack
<0> sorry you dontknow better then them
<0> you're like the guy that argues with the man page
<4> LOL
<1> is win32fs the same as fat32?
<6> I don't think so.
<5> RaZorro: sorry i mean fat32
<1> ok, yea
<1> but is there a porformance hit between ntfs and fat32?
<0> this is the gprated page
<0> RaZorro: yes but none you'll care about if you are using it anyway
<0> http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/
<5> RaZorro: yes there is .. in indexing capability and size. but you feel no different in high end system
<0> Cognition: thats for you notice that under suppoted no * in the ntfs column
<3> Routermen: you should start a new linuxchicks.org or something :)
<0> Cognition: yeah what wouuld the authors know though
<1> isn't there like a 32 gb cap in fat32 or something?
<0> cant remember the last time I used fat32 in a system
<5> Cognition: hehe maybe not :)
<5> Cognition: the community is better here
<1> then what do you suggest cancel?
<7> but naked linux chicks rock
<3> Routermen: too much testosterone though
<3> nivek: amen
<1> yes? no? cancel?
<0> RaZorro: that wasnt a yes or no question
<0> RaZorro: what you use is up to you
<0> RaZorro: if you want linux to read it without work use fat32
<0> RaZorro: if you dont ntfs
<3> although i can't imagine a huge swarm of geeky girls getting naked, sounds weird
<7> a guy can dream though
<5> :P
<1> is there a way to make the fat32 partition bigger than 32 gb?
<0> dont bother
<1> ?
<0> you dont want a file system bigger then the fs supports
<0> dont bother
<3> Routermen: you're too gorgeous to participate in that though, we need real geeky lookin girls!
<1> ok
<0> thats like asking can I use fat 16 on my 100gb h
<0> is there a way to do it
<1> so i shouldn't even bother with ntfs?
<0> dont try to put 20 lbs of crap in a 5lb bag
<1> but i like my crapbags overflowing with crap
<0> you put 20lbs of crap in a 20lb bag
<0> RaZorro: i'm sure you do your system won
<0> wont rather
<3> that's the microwave calling me ...
<1> wait, so no ntfs or yes?
<5> i love the electromagnet stove
<0> RaZorro: do what you want
<0> install the thing already
<5> Cognition: whats cookin
<1> lol
<1> what distro you use?
<3> Routermen: leftovers
<3> some chicken and rice
<5> Cognition: enjoy your meal :)
<3> Routermen: i'd rather take you out for dinner but you're kinda too far
<1> cancel what distro do you use?
<0> fedora
<0> and suse
<1> ah
<5> Cognition: nice excuse of not asking me out .. :)
<0> i just did a debian isntall and of course the front end program hung so i could not do apt update
<0> thank you debian
<3> Routermen: LOL holy crap are you kidding
<1> i have ubuntu, gentoo and mandriva
<3> Routermen: me, turn down a linux chick? not in a million
<6> Do you call it Susie, Soos, or Soozuh?
<1> i was thinkin about trying gentoo cuz i read if you have time, it's the best way to learn the guts of linux
<3> p3nguin: good question. I think it's like susie
<5> Sus
<3> or like suzie
<5> its pronounced suus
<5> like fuse
<3> oh
<5> suse
<3> or like booz
<1> ubuntu seems too... easy
<5> suddenly easy is the enemy
<3> RaZorro: it is preferred for new users, along with other "friendly" distros like Fedora, mandriva, and Suse
<3> i'm a debian guy myself, can't stand Ubuntu
<8> easy is good
<8> it saves time
<8> and money
<1> why can't you stand ubuntu?
<3> Crazy1: on the short term
<8> ubuntu is super easy
<8> easier to me than windows
<3> RaZorro: because i like more control over my system, and Ubuntu .. well it is a bit automated in some tasks, and it has Gnome as the default desktop
<5> ubuntu: a Zulu word, literally meaning humanness. Ubuntu is a social and spiritual philosophy serving as a framework for African society. Its essential meaning can be conveyed using the Zulu maxim umuntu ngumuntu ngabantumeaning, in essence, a person is a person through other persons. The practice of ubuntu is fundamentally inclusive, involving respect and concern for one's family and one's neighbors. It also implies respect for one's ancestors, in a de
<7> so use Kubuntu or Xubuntu
<3> RaZorro: but don't get me wrong, it is a great distribution, actually, it scores the highest hits on distrowatch.com
<8> Cognition if you get paid by an hour yeah on the short term
<5> ubuntu : a humanness linux
<5> or humanized linux
<5> hehe
<1> lol
<3> Routermen: oh comeon :) what's so human about it, it's just another distro, those are just words to spice it up
<5> well yeah .. but i love the idea :)
<8> i hope it get easier in the future.. better driver support and it can be used on every new laptop or desktop
<1> i was looking at distro watch and what's the processor architecture thing? ubuntu is i386, which i dunno, but it sounds way old, and gentoo is i686
<3> Crazy1: probably never like windows
<3> well
<3> at least never within the next 20-30 years
<7> Ubuntu has i686 kernels
<8> Cognition man if the damn Direct X goes a way linux will be popluar
<3> Crazy1: it needs much more than just direct X going away
<1> people like windows because it's what eveyrone grew up with with computers, any change scares them
<3> Crazy1: the main reason for Microsoft dominance is application development, which still resides on Windows for the most part
<3> plus, as RaZorro said, people are used to windows already
<0> 20-30 doubtful
<0> as it didnt exactly take m$ 20 years
<0> and with bill gone from the helm
<1> and microsoft has $$$$
<7> and the dancing monkey
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