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<0> [root@localhost Ashure]# switchdesk
<0> bash: switchdesk: command not found
<0> [root@localhost Ashure]#
<1> Ashure: quit flooding the channel
<0> :/
<0> Sorry is there a paste bin?
<2> Stop paste flooding the channel.
<2> pastebin.ca
<0> Ok.
<3> Ashure: What are you trying to do again?
<1> Ashure: whereis switchdesk
<0> I simply want my default GUI to be kde when i boot, as opposed to gnome
<0> Cognition, will switchdesk change it permanently?
<3> Why dont you just switch it from the GDM Login Manager?
<4> apt-get remove gdm; apt-get install kdm
<4> or just turn gdm off
<0> I have a big fat book so i wontbe ignorant forever but
<1> Ashure: yes
<0> I would just like to take care of a few quirks
<4> I've been running linux for 10 years. lol
<4> 5 years professionally
<1> Ashure: why don't you just switch the desktop from the login manager?
<4> it should ask if you want to make it the default
<0> well.. I started with slack 4.0.. but everything has changed so much.. and ive been in windows 5 years
<0> Cognition, When you say login manager, do you mean grub?.. the boot loader?
<0> oh.. hm
<3> Ashure: No..
<1> Ashure: no, i mean the login manager, GDM or KDM, or whatever appears when you first boot the kernel
<1> it's the thing that asks for your LOGIN name and p***word!
<0> oh,
<3> Ashure: After you deal with the grub boot loader, it will load your kernel and system, the login manager pops up and its graphical right...
<0> yes now i remember that, lol
<1> Ashure: it seems to me that you're still noob as of yet.
<0> one last thing if i may bother, how do I get grub to allow me more than 2 seconds to pick what i want to boot?
<1> Ashure: scroll back, i gave you the answer
<3> Ashure: So in that "Login Manger" There should be an option there to "Use KDE for this session" when you select that option it will ask you in an alert box "Would you like to make this your default session manager" It will have a yes and no button, press yes
<0> Cognition, yes I am, my experience is mainly in c++
<0> :)
<0> I just played around with linux when i was younger is all.. its all so vage now because back then it wasnt as gui dependant, like now when i do cnrtl alt bckspace.. it doesnt do what i expect
<1> linux is not GUI dependent
<3> The GUI as far as I understand just p***es options to the kernel the same as if you typed them in the kernel
<3> I mean in the shell even
<0> I know, but when i back out of the gui.. i dont get a shell for some reason
<1> Ctrl-alt-Backspace logs out
<4> it probably has nozap set
<3> Ashure, Try Ctrl+Alt+F4 for example.. it should put you to the old school consol
<4> trust me, linux doesn't need a GUI
<0> it just has a black screen where i can type
<1> AcidTouch_: nope, X is built on top of the kernel, it is just triggered from the shell
<4> we have 2000 servers without X
<5> d from the shell
<3> Cognition: Oh...
<4> the GUI just slows me down, ssh is far easier
<0> and im using to in backing into a shell where i can cnrt +1 - 4 for 4 shell instances
<1> AcidTouch_: the X server makes a lot of system calls
<1> Ashure: listen ..
<0> AcidTouch_, thanks!
<3> Asako: The only thing I like the GUI for is games, Movies, and web browseing.. but alot of the time I'll use TTY4 and lynx to browse when im researching something.. no more banners.
<0> Cognition, : yes?
<3> Ashure: No problem... I do belive trl+alt+F7 will put you back to the GUI
<3> I knwo its liek that with debain
<4> yeah, my workstation runs X, but not servers
<1> Ashure: we can't spoon feed ya everything related to system customization, i suggest reading the guides in tldp.org This way you'll progress faster and more efficiently.
<3> Someone else more expirienced with Linux than i am would know for sure
<4> or just****inggoogleit.com
<1> AcidTouch_: yup you're right, what you are taking about is called V-Terms (virtual terminals)
<0> Cognition: understandable, I have the linux bible 2004 edition in front of me
<1> s/taking/talking
<3> Cognition: I call em gettys
<0> just needed some quick quirks fixes
<3> from when I edited my inittab file to get more VT's as you call em
<3> I like switching to the gettys when I need to do command line work, I find it more efficient than running a Terminal Emulator
<1> AcidTouch_: hmm, that wouldn't make much sense to me
<3> If im workin straight from a command line I dont like the GUI cluttering things up... Know what I mean
<1> it's easier to kill GUI terminals, and furthermore, you can scroll back and do more work with it
<1> AcidTouch_: then maximize it
<3> LOL... Tiz true...
<1> and hide the menu panel (although i prefer having it)
<6> I jus tlike the straight Shell feel and look... no poping up messages and crap like that.
<6> Right now im playin in the Emulator because im watching a movie at the same time on my desktop
<1> the only time i use the actual command-line console is when i'm switching runlevels and doing some debugging
<1> i.e. when i'm not booting into X
<6> LOL
<6> Everyone does things differently...
<1> That's true
<1> BUT
<1> on the other hand
<1> i do almost nothing from my GUI interface
<1> i just run the terminal, and do everything from there
<6> LOL, I like some of the GUI applications.. the music player, movie player, gaim, and when im here, xchat
<1> nah
<1> mplayer for music/video
<1> i run it from the command prompt, and i LOVE it
<6> I prefer irssi but xchat since they GUI of it has be remodled on my version seems acually really nice so I hav ebeen useing it lately
<6> I dont even think I have touched nautilus.. LOL
<6> the command line works so much faster for moveing, deleating, and copying files
<1> Anyway, back to reading, that ****ing Compiler Construction cl*** is giving me pain
<6> same with I like to edit my text files and scripts with pico.... I hate reaching for my mouse
<6> LOL
<1> AcidTouch: try vi
<6> I cant get into vi... tried it a few times.. pico is just easyer for me
<6> again to each their own right.
<1> pico is not for hardcore old fashion geeky programmers
<1> i can't live without vi
<6> lol, I am not a programmer and will not ever claim to be. Untill I acually learn how to program that is. LOL
<1> besides, it's not called pico if you're using the free version, it's called nano now
<6> welp. I have a pico. LOL
<4> pico is probably a symlink
<6> ima gonna check that out now..
<1> AcidTouch: type whatis pico
<6> I just oped a term and typed nano and there was pico... You learn something new every day!
<4> yup
<4> I learned today that bash can't handle 1.7 million item for loops
<6> Thats why i love linux... always learning
<4> this server had almost 2 million tables on one database
<1> Asako: it would be stupid to handle DBs with a script!
<4> nah
<4> find . -maxdepth 1 -name "*.MYI" | xargs myisamchk
<6> wb ep|phany
<7> hey AcidTouch
<7> how are ya dude ?
<6> good good, yourself my friend?
<7> i am good dude , just came to work.
<6> nice
<7> :)
<6> Well sorta... other than the fact your at work. LOL
<6> unless you like your job
<7> welll i will like my, job
<7> but as of now , no i dont like it
<8> heh, tell me about it
<6> LOL, I love my job.. Im a profesional Mover
<8> at least I'm only working for another few months. then my usual 6 month retirement :)
<9> acid, at least you get a workout
<10> What's up
<7> Boredboy 6 month retirement, whats that suppose to mean ?
<7> AcidTouch so professional means u got to love your job :P and if u dont you are not professional:P
<8> ep|phany: oh, I generally work for about 6 months and then spend the next 6 months travelling etc
<7> Boredboy oh awesome dude
<8> last year was 6 months in Thailand becoming a scuba instructor
<4> I've been at the same job 5 years
<8> this year is wandering around New Zealand, might do sky diving this time ;)
<7> Boredboy ahem ur life seems to be intersting :)
<7> really travelling is fun but i hardly get time off work to go anywhere else
<8> ep|phany: I just get very bored quickly!
<8> the joys of being a contractor I suppose :)
<8> speaking of advantages of contracting, time for my 2 hour lunch break at the gym. talk later
<7> hmmm great :)
<7> sounds really interesting , but dont you think there will be a stage when you wil have no where to go,
<7> ?
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