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<0> Loose the backing for the company's sql server, and you're playing which-tape-works, getting new hardware installed, new operating systems installed...
<0> Nah. If you plan well and can stretch your budget, you can keep it down to a few times a year.
<0> Anyways, it takes five years of study to become competent and ten years to get good.
<1> Even if you cram it?
<2> mmm dunno whether it'd take that long
<1> Yeah, I also am question it
<2> i have a friend who didnt do it for too long before he landed a 300k/year job in costa rica
<2> and people like scrye also didnt take that long to get on decent salaries
<1> Muldy, where are you at?
<0> There's no such thing as cramming.
<2> Kool-Aid, new zealand
<0> Muldy: I'm not sure why you're being argumentative.
<2> jblack, i'm questioning the '10 years to get good' hypothesis
<0> Scrye went in long before he was ready. He's quite good these days though, I hear.
<0> And he has been in the field for ten years.
<3> omg, Muldy dared to disagree with someone, string him up now!
<2> i just asked him
<2> 3 years he'd been in the field
<2> and he was good when he was 21
<0> Heh. He started back in '96 or '97.
<4> <2> and he was good when he was 21
<4> <0> Heh. He started back in '96 or '97.
<4> <2> well sure it'll be about 10 years now
<4> <2> but i'm saying he was probably very good back then already
<4> * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer).
<0> Thats rather my point. He's really good today, at least from what I hear. Its been almost ten years.
<4> ok
<0> Back in '01 or '02, he started meeting my measure of competent.
<0> mohua: See how that works? There's an argument, the facts are ascertained, and resolution is found.
<1> I'll be 36 this year. I've been working in wafer fab until recently, I've never been happy with it
<3> jblack: you are full of ****
<1> If it really takes 10 years, then I'll have to rethink it. I have roughly 2 years to go in completing the engineering degree
<3> i just sit here and laugh
<3> can't help but
<0> kool-aid: That's what it takes. Its not the depth that's the problem, but the breadth.
<0> kool-aid: A sysadmin doesn't have to be a great programmer -- just a good one. The same for the everything else.
<5> a good sysadmin should hate his users. :P
<0> Techdeck: That fits the definition of an awful sysadmin to me.
<3> Techdeck: you been reading to much BOFH
<4> bastard operator from hell more like it
<4> heh
<4> bofh is apparently an ***hole to work with someties
<4> that's a comment from his colleges
<4> colleages
<4> colleagues
<5> almost
<5> nice
<1> I had a job interview recently, I told the guy that the most important trait that I saw in myself so far as work goes is that I am easy to train; as an example I told him that I tought myself c++, and he seemed really impressed
<1> and I was thinking to myself...wtf
<4> lol
<0> How good of a programmer are you?
<4> human resources are like that
<0> Do you use design patterns, or use refactoring?
<4> they usually have commerce degrees in marketting or management
<1> hmmm, not very good one
<1> =)
<4> wow that's kinda scary
<4> i pretty much already have a bachelors degree
<4> hah
<4> why do i still feel like a kid
<0> Kool-aid: What area are you in?
<1> Portland Oregon
<0> they have computers in oregon?
<1> hahahhaah, Portland is a mini silicon valley
<4> Kool-Aid, complete engineering, get a law degree, become a patent attorney
<1> there are wafer fabs every which way you turn
<0> I'm speaking at OSCMS, btw, if you want to make the drive up to Vancouver.
<4> $$$$
<1> jblack, when's that?
<0> This week.
<1> When
<0> monday.
<1> time?
<0> 10
<0> I'll be there for three days though.
<1> hahaha, it's happening in Vancouver BC. I thought that you meant Vancouver WA
<1> =D
<1> I just googled it
<1> It's roughly 4-5 hours of drive, I think
<1> probably closer to 5 hours
<6> mornnin all
<0> I received 500 spams in the last 24 hours.
<6> hehe
<6> hi jblack
<0> Hi.
<6> hows tricks
<0> Not bad.
<6> i have a telecom event today
<6> pffffffff
<6> for 4 days
<7> what is the difference between socks4 and socks5
<8> socks5 is the newest protocol
<8> has a lot more useful stuff iirc
<8> newer protocol, rather
<7> what advantage do you get using socks5 instead of socks4
<8> i'm not sure
<8> www.socks.nec.com is sure to tell you though
<8> nvm thats down
<8> stronger authentification and support for udp apps is all i can think of
<8> username/p***word logins
<9> how to extract *.tar.gz ???
<10> tar -zxvf file
<7> when is DALnet going to support voicechat?
<11> uh oh, wrong button
<12> what's interesting today, i'm boring
<12> what's that
<11> sweetest song
<13> I am using Debian Sarge and I just added additional IP in /etc/network/interfaces ... is there any way to activate that IP without reboot?
<11> ifconfig ethx ip up
<14> i have not used windows in years
<14> this is weird
<14> at least there is blackbox for windowa
<12> guys, c programming, what #include <???.h> that has clrscr() function?
<15> sigh.
<15> where can i find canadians?
<12> in canada
<15> i mean, on irc.. and not an obvious channel name.
<13> slicers: do I have to do anything else or just adding iface eth1 inet static (and IP,gateway,..) to /etc/network/interfaces ? ... cuz it says eth1 does not exist
<11> AtomicX`: btw, can you add iface wihtout shuting down your machine?
<15> stupid canadian ****s.
<13> slicers: I have read on manual that I should add that to /etc/network/interfaces ... I really dont know what that means ... I just want to add some aditional IPs that I have to the server
<13> what is the easyest way to do that? or maybe some manual for it?
<11> AtomicX`: hmm thats virtual ip
<13> yes
<11> ifconfig ethx(y) ip up
<13> when I reboot, it will still be there?
<11> put that line in rc.local
<13> ok
<16> hello moto :d
<17> hy. do you guys know why lately k3b isn't able to close the session on my dvds ?
<18> hello all
<18> somebody have tutorial about vlan ?
<19> yay im home
<19> emi: not sure have you read any FAQ or help docs at k3b's site?
<20> Does anyone know how to change the local host for a user to % for admin in mysql?
<19> eh, charles22 do what?
<19> al-ahmeer: tldp.org
<20> I need to change the local host foor admin to %
<20> localhost | admin | p***word |
<19> hmm, dunno man
<18> charles22 : use phpmyadmin
<20> np
<19> hmm, damn.. my neighbor died yesterday
<19> i didnt know that.
<19> wtf is up with everyone dying ??!?!
<19> al-ahmeer: he's gone dude
<18> damn
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