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<0> jasons camaro had a 350 in it
<0> had that LT engine
<0> the firebird had a 2.8 or 3.1
<1> I think it was a 60 trans. I could be mistaken.
<0> where exactly was it?
<0> i'll go look
<0> behind, or on the south side?
<1> Near the south end on the west side.
<0> ok brb..
<1> err... sound side on the west end.
<1> south
<1> If xset r 200 does not set the repeat rate to 200 what else can I do?
<2> p3nguin: what desktop environment?
<2> and what distro?
<1> X
<0> does that matter?



<1> nO.
<0> p3nguin: the only GM transmission there was connected to a 2.8:
<0> 2.8L
<3> Interex - some distros and some desktop environments have easy ways to do it
<1> It doesn't. It's X.org. That's all that matters.
<0> tonsofpcs: who cares about 'easy'
<0> p3nguin: it says "6663550" or "666355D"
<3> Interex - he want's it done, what's it matter how it gets done?
<1> Interex: That would have been the one.
<0> p3nguin: yea its 60 degree
<0> :(
<1> I have parts of one of those in the garage.
<0> there was 1 Ford OD transmission and 2 FWD ones
<1> I intended to put it back together about four years ago and never did.
<0> what about the 700 that you had for your cutlas?
<0> cutl***
<1> Broken.
<0> belhousing broken?
<1> No, just about everything else, though.
<3> p3nguin - xset r rate [rd] [rr] where [rd] is the delay and [rr] is the repeat rate (example: xset r rate 200 10)
<0> p3nguin: could always run up by Ronnies some day and take a peek around :/
<1> I did that, it failed to correct the rate.
<3> p3nguin - are you trying to do this to a running X display?
<3> try with the -display option to force display?
<1> Yes. That is the entire purpose of the command.
<1> I didn't try that, but I can.
<1> xset r rate 255 100
<1> That works!
<1> That thing moves in a hurry now.
<2> yea, it waits 255 ms then repeats 100x per sec
<1> mm'hmm
<1> It's much better than it was.
<1> That's kinda funny, actually.
<4> Hi
<4> Are there any sys admins in here?
<5> Yup
<4> jblack, what's the best way to get into linux/unix admin track?
<4> certs?
<5> Kool-aid: By doing for yourself, I suppose.
<4> jblack, I agree
<4> only linux certification that I am aware of it is one by Red Hat
<5> I used to do intern/mentor setups for peple, but people gave up too quickly.
<4> I do not need anyone to teach me
<4> I can read
<5> Seems like people get scarce when they find out that its suspiciously like work.
<4> but pointers on how to get into the field would be appreciated
<4> My thoughts are get a job as a tech support or help desk
<4> then go from there
<4> along the way pick up few certs
<5> You don't need to understand anything if you're doing tech support or help desk. Other than being able to click buttons on a web form and reading the answer to users.
<4> My academic background is in mechanical engineering, I never finished it though, so it's worthless
<4> jblack: Well, what I meant is that it may be a good resume material which may lead to admin position
<4> apparently I am wrong
<5> If you want to be a sysadmin, then you'll need to learn the following things well:
<5> For mailservers: Postfix, Qmail, Exim.
<5> For sqlservers: Postgresql and mysql
<5> For Webservers: apache 1.3 and apache 2.0
<4> not a prob
<4> =)
<4> not a prob



<4> How can I get an entry level position?
<5> For communication, how to not interrupt, how to learn how to say yes.
<5> for system administration, Debian, Ubuntu, Redhat (both Fedora and RHEL) and Suse.
<5> Nameservers, time servers.
<5> A handful of firewalling tools such as netfilter, ipchains. Cisco routers.
<5> Basic and advanced networking of course.
<5> Several scripting languages. You'll need at least python, perl and bash.
<5> Several big languages, C and C++ are mandatory, others help.
<5> Oh, php of course.
<5> Know a few CMS systems, including drupal and the others.
<5> Keep a good eye on security sites for those platforms you support.
<5> Have a very solid grasp of Windows (95 - current), OS-X.
<5> blah blah, blah blah, blah blah. You get the point, right?
<4> Yeah. Is there a certification track which includes all that?
<6> and you have two days to learn all that or else
<4> You know, like MCSE and such
<5> No. certification systems are a joke.
<5> They're only useful when you're trying to work at a place that don't know certification systems are a joke.
<4> What about joining the local lug?
<4> would that be helpful?
<5> And they can actually harm you if you bump into somebody that knows they're a joke.
<5> The local lug is very useful to get an idea for what things are out there and networking.
<5> Listen to each talk carefully and pick it apart afterwards (keep it to yourself though). Also, speak as often as you can.
<4> at one point I was ready to take several MCSE exams, but lacked funds
<4> examcram books
<4> =)
<5> Yup. Thats why I've never recommended for hire someone that does CERTS.
<5> When I bump into people that have certs, it screams to me "SHORTCUTS Here. I only know the very few things on certs"
<4> Ok, I'll check out the lug around here
<5> There's a few other really useful things you can do.
<5> You can build up a skillset and a social network quickly by providing ***istance to free software projects.
<5> The more projects you get listed as having contributed with, the better you look.
<4> I agree
<4> Thanks for the pointers, I really appreciate it
<4> I mean it
<4> =)
<5> You seem pretty smart to me, so its worth it to bother. :)
<4> hehe
<4> =D
<5> You caught right on with the quip about interrupting. Thats promising.
<5> I'll give you my best piece of advice for that one.
<5> I have a sticker on my laptop that says "Look for ways to say yes"
<5> That doesn't mean to be a pushover. That means giving people the things they want in a way that minimizes harm to them.
<5> There's a lot of really, really bad sysadmins out there that think their job is to sit on their *** and say no all the time.
<5> IT is typically a cost center. cost centers that seem focused on preventing the company from working don't last too long.
<5> If somebody at the company hits you up with "I want to do <ThisDangerousThing>" find out what they really want, and come up with a way to give it to them in a way that minimizes disruptions to the company, security, etc.
<5> You do that by remembering that people aren't tied to the method, but the result.
<5> Get it?
<4> Yeah
<4> =)
<5> Thats very important.
<5> by the way, how serious are you?
<4> hmmm
<4> how to answer that
<4> hehe
<4> It's what I am gonna be doing
<4> =D
<5> Lemme ask you this... If you want to be a sysadmin/netadmin... Are you ready to go to work on a Friday and not go home until Tuesday?
<7> Kool-Aid, complete your degree. engineers are in the top 5 most needed HR right now
<4> jblack: Well, that's not really a realistic question. It's not the way it goes
<4> right?
<4> Muldy, there's a prob with funding
<7> student loan from govt
<5> Yeah, actually, it is the way it can go.
<4> Muldy, there's a problem with that too
<7> Kool-Aid, oh?
<5> If your client plant is mostly windowsXP and a virus gets through your firewall, you're the one that has to fix all 200 machines.
<5> You can't trust the monkeys to do it, because they'll just **** it up
<7> that's why people deploy things like symantec antivirus corporate
<7> so you dont have to
<5> That can help.
<5> Point being, you _will_ have some long work weekends while everyone plays.
<4> Perhaps, but that's not routine
<5> Loose the backing for the company's sql server, and you're playing which-tape-works, getting new hardware installed, new operating systems installed...


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