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<0> ah
<1> j00 wanna be teh hax0r
<0> nah
<0> I read smashing the stack, found it interesting, and actually want to learn how to do it, more in depth than what was in there
<2> yes, search your feelings
<1> I sense much fear in you
<2> let the force flow through you
<2> LOL
<2> oh well, it's #linux
<0> does anony have any suggestions on which order to start in, #C is for reg nicks only
<3> heh
<4> nick ban. :)
<3> just start on one, it doesnt matter
<0> im regging
<1> you could /nickserv register MakeUpAP***word UseYourEmailAddress
<0> ya, I did that, Im waiting for the email
<1> heh
<1> sometimes takes 5 minutes... sometimes 2 days
<2> hmm, depending on the client, you might have to /msg nickserv@services.dal.net
<0> ya or /server
<0> er.../nickserv
<0> im retared
<1> or /services
<2> or /enoughalready!
<5> just grab a coupple of tutorials online, print them and start reading. There augt to be tons about memmory managemnet in C ..
<6> books: you are familiar with C already?
<0> aye, but what is the best way to start, do I need to learn ***embly in depth? or can I just start learning mem management in C etc?
<5> or check "the art of ***embly" if you wannna code some x86 ***embly.
<2> if you really want to understand the internals, then you need to read a book about compiler construction with C, there you will understand the internals such as the Heap, stack, and other memory managment issues related to the compiler
<0> Runeb, yes, somewhat, but Im not proficient
<0> smurf, I have that book
<4> books: Look at old exploits, try to understand what they do. Learn how to use a good debugger.
<6> well, you'll have to learn some ***embly.
<5> C can be pretty low.. and um ***embly aint that much coded today (afaik) if you dont count the l33t haxxor circles or whatnot. aaaannnddd.. exploits and such is WAY of topic here. so go elsewhere if you wanna aks about that ;)
<4> The C memory model really aint that complicated.
<2> Noy`gone: that's really not the case
<2> Noy`gone: the internals of the compiler are very complex
<1> holy ****
<1> load average: 18.30, 15.52, 8.61
<4> Cognition: Yes they are, but u dont have to understand the internals of a compiler to understand how the memory model works.
<2> Noy`gone: the memory model itself is rather complex
<6> just be glad that those old DOS compilers are pretty much obsolete.
<6> with all those different memory models.
<0> Ill just google C memory model?
<0> and start reading?
<2> Noy`gone: for example, the stack can expand in one direction or both directions, you can have bad pointers shifted by adding variables, etc ...
<0> oh man, the guys from super troopers are comming out with a new movie
<0> alright, thanks for the help, Im going to smoke a bowl, and start reading...and of course lurk here
<5> books, yes? what movie is that?
<0> beerfest
<0> by broken lizard
<5> lol cool.
<5> like the end of super troopers maby ;)
<0> Its actualyl comming otu next week, about a secret society like "fight club", but with beer, and german accents
<5> haha
<7> wb
<7> :p
<7> welcome :/
<1> De_RoyaL_RaGe, please stop with the fish.
<8> Thanks
<7> nivek :// Sorry
<7> erm chills ://
<9> hey guys
<9> usr/sbin/sshd restart
<9> Extra argument restart.
<7> hey :/
<9> how do i restart
<1> what distro?
<6> what distro?
<1> stop copying me
<9> centos
<7> what distro?
<1> service sshd restart shoud do it
<9> let me try
<9> well it says permission deined even tho i am root and ls -l says i have the permission
<9> and this other way says needs extra arguments
<1> premission denied?
<9> yes
<1> as root?
<1> hehe.. that's pretty funny right there
<3> make sure the permission on that directory allows you to ls
<3> if it doesnt, change it
<3> :P
<9> nivek, yes as root .. its not even a VPS :\
<9> you cant on a vps
<1> what is this vps I've been hearing so much about
<9> nivek, its a Virtual private server
<9> 1 huge server with loads of resources .. many roots sold as small pirvate servers
<7> and i got 1 :D
<9> yea we akll know you are a packet kiddie sho :p
<9> nivek, any suggestions ?
<7> :o
<1> many "roots"?
<9> resources are divided up right
<1> there can be only 1
<9> 1 root : but basically many users
<1> ahh... many shells sold
<9> yea but you can install compile
<9> ect
<9> not shut down services
<1> then you're not root :)
<9> but as i said this isnt a vps
<1> I dunno man
<1> if root can't restart the service...
<9> k nvm killall -9 sshd
<1> nuke it
<1> actually
<9> haha
<1> -1 would be better I think
<6> that may be a bad idea if you're sshing to the server...
<10> i'm trying to figure out what happened to a file - i accidentally typed "mv thefile ..\newdirectory" instead of "mv thefile ../newdirectory" - is it gone forever?
<6> jp19: try ls -a
<6> :)
<10> thanks RuneB :)
<10> not my smartest moment
<1> heh
<1> load average: 5.67, 9.62, 13.66
<1> who thinks it's time to upgrade the server?
<11> what's causing the load?
<3> what on earth rae you doing
<11> I've seen worse here this past week
<3> ii've seen loads of up to 40
<11> like over 100 twice, 75 a few times
<3> but that's cause there was some hardware error casuing it
<1> earlier it was: 18.30, 15.52, 8.61
<11> runaway applications here
<3> i ***ume only 1 processor?
<3> 18 over 18 processors wouldnt be bad
<11> 2 procs
<11> & our apps aren't optimzed for multi-processing (even tho they should be)
<1> 2 procs
<1> oh
<12> is there any Convevtor for linux ? Convert .wav to .mp3 ???
<1> wrong, only 1
<1> cpu MHz : 498.583
<12> is there any Convevtor for linux ? Convert .wav to .mp3 ???
<11> agresor: a) stop repeating yourself b) apparently yes - http://www.google.com/linux?q=wav2mp3
<13> you mean as in threading?
<11> nivek: make sure it didn't scroll past cpu 0
<1> it didn't
<14> I got my modem to work
<2> Al-Ashtar: congrats
<2> Al-Ashtar: now that's another dinner, or no, maybe just an ice-cream or something
<12> that wav2mp3
<12> is just for win32
<3> someone better slap me , before i start to rust, before i start to decompose
<15> agresor, use lame, lame sample.wav sample.mp3
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