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<0> i honestly don't remember. <0> so it's just one contained partition... <0> why doesn't Linux do that? <0> or can you make it? <1> different philosophies <2> Essentially, you have one partition and then slice it into pieces. <0> wb smurfd <1> you can resize inner partitions without a reboot, but I've yet to see a need for this <0> what do you mean by "slice" <1> linix, a slice is a partition which contains subdivisions or virtual partitions (ones that are not listed on the partition table) <0> ah, virtual <0> that's cool. <2> I did a make clean and then rebuilt the same kernel using ccache. 11m13.7s is how long it took to compile it. <0> DAMN. <0> dude, what kind of hardware do you have in that box? <3> on gentoo ccache really pays off if you ever do "emerge world"
<0> that works for me regardless <3> although it helps with lots of things. you update the latest version of a program, most of the source files will be the same as the prior version, so ccache again helps <0> life --emerge=world <0> rm -rf /var/world <2> In 2.6, running "make" will compile the bzImage and modules, right? <3> yes <3> well <3> i still do make modules <3> and make modules_install <3> but now you just do "make" instead of "make bzImage" <2> I should have done make bzImage and make modules then I would have known exactly what it was making. <3> make is now the same thing as "make bzimage" <3> other than that, and the much neater output format, there is no change <2> linix: I used distcc to compile the kernel across two computers. One is 2.0GHz and the other is 2.17GHz. <0> ahh <2> So make is not the same as make all? <3> p3nguin: i don't know 100% at the moment as i never used "make all" but i have always had to do "make modules" as well as "make" <0> alright <3> put it this way <0> bbl guys <3> in the past i used the equivalent of "make bzImage && make modules && make install && make modules_install" and now i use "make && make modules && make install && make modules_install" <3> even though that last modules_install may be redundant, not sure. <3> but that gets me the results i want <2> It's my understanding that you have to use make modules_install if you want to install the modules. <3> yes i always ***umed that also <3> in order to not leave them out <3> i don't actually use any regular kernel modules <3> but i do modules_install anyway to rebuild the correct /lib/modules directory since i do use the nvidia kernel module <3> and it needs the modules.dep file to be correct etc <3> if not for the nvidia kernel module i would completely disable loadable modules <3> just keep in mind though <3> i am not sure if ccache is automatically used when you manually build <3> you may have to configure the kernel and then emerge it <3> meaning i don't know if it's called by emerge (as I believe so, since if you check "Features" in /etc/make.conf you will find the ccache option there) or if it actually alters say, the gcc specfile <4> POLKA POWER HEY HEY HEY *Dances* <3> ... that was random <2> Okay, so the kernel is right where I started. It does not recognize my / because it is on reiserfs. <2> Which leaves the 2.6 unbootable. <2> I'll have to change that and redo it later. <5> Routermen: are you around? <6> Does anyone here knows the RHCE course ? specifically about the "Linux essentials" sub-course ? <5> eliran: i'm not sure if you looked, but it's all here -> https://www.redhat.com/training/rhce/courses/ <6> I was looking for someone's personal opinion, but I'll look there anyway, thanks. <7> hello all <7> hello blya! <7> anunah! <7> oh, i'm stupid! <8> anyone? <7> a! <7> hello <8> Hello <7> MEDVED PREVED!!! <7> ))) <7> who a you& <7> ? <8> I am using Dial-UP, but when I run iptables, net is not working in clients. When I stop iptables it works. <8> http://pastebin.ca/122776 Here is my iptables config. <7> i'm lamer <7> but i'm ezhik <7> i'm from Russia <7> blya!!!
<7> nahyi s'ebal to? pidor! <7> hello <9> Thunkuu houls have replaced eth0 with ppp0 <9> ezhik: stop that. <7> Thunkuu s'ebal otsyda <7> what!??! <1> http://www.yikers.com/video_amazing_racist_tricks_mexicans.html <10> ali up yet? <5> That video is so not funny <5> what a ****ing racist prick <1> Cognition, I doubt he's really racist <5> jblack: it's like 11:00 p.m. in kuwait, people are getting ready to sleep <10> He's been inverted lately <5> oh right ... <10> It's probably my fault. He'd probably sleep better if I stopped shaving my ***y legs <5> LOL <5> yuck, i don't even want to imagine that <10> I wonder where the gaming industry would be if they hadn't invented breast physics <9> jblack: still selling "simon the sorceror" <10> pardon? <9> http://www.adventuresoft.com/gs1.html <9> "Originally released in 1993, Simon the Sorcerer introduced the pointy hatted teenager to your computer screens and is a cl***ic point ?n? click adventure." <11> ngon som vet hur man avinstallerar linux <1> no swedish <11> okey <1> nothing1, try this channel name + .se <11> okey thanks <11> how do i unistall linux, so i can get get 2 os, i have installed linux first on my computer <5> jblack: say, how's that coffee makers website doing <1> nothing1, it's possible you can resize the partition so you can install another OS, try qtparted or partition magic, remember to back up your important data first <3> heh what's that saying.. there are two types of users, one which makes routine backups, and one which has never had a hard drive fail <11> were can i get partition magic to linux? <3> it's a proprietary program <5> nothing1: partition magic is _not_ for linux <3> it usually runs on its own DOS boot environment <5> nothing1: try gparted's liveCD, that's the easiest and most convenient program to work with <3> i have gparted installed on this machine but i have yet to need to use it <3> how's it compare to partitionmagic ? <3> feature-wise i mean <5> the liveCD has the advantage with working with non-mounted partitions <3> okay but that's not a feature comparison <5> and it supports a lot of file systems, including ext2/3, NTFS, FAT, and others <3> ah <3> i am surprised you can resize ntfs but cannot write to it without using a binary driver <5> well, that's a different story <3> and i'd never use any partitioning tool on a mounted partition. that's just asking for trouble <3> well yes but as someone who does not know much about filesystem design i am surprised that resizing it is trivial by comparison <3> although i am also surprised that companies would ever store data using proprietary formats but hey. <5> File systems in general are quite complex. NTFS and FAT are inferior in my opinion though <3> oh i agree <3> to me even if it were twice as fast on all performance benchmarks as ext3, i would still consider ntfs inferior due to its proprietary nature. this is because my data is valuable to me <5> the very nature of their structure leads to disk fragmentation, an incident which you do not encounter with ext file systems, unless the drive is totally full <3> yes i know that about the ext filesystems but i would love a high-level explanation (for someone who does not design filesystems) of how they handle fragmentation <12> anyone here? <10> actually, ext2/3 does suffer minor fragmentation too. <3> well yes <12> hey guys <12> i need some opinion(s) <3> that's why i asked how they handle it, not how they eliminate it <12> i'm installing slack 10.2 on an 80gb hdd, <12> i'm thinking of doing 3 primary partitions <12> [1] / and /home <12> [2] /var and /tmp <12> [3] swap <12> can you guys think of anything else i should create individual partitions for, if anything? <10> causality: Moderately. When the size of a file is known it picks the smallest space that fits the whole file. <5> i don't know what you mean by high-level explanation, but in general, it is related to the algorithms implemented. Although most algorithms use B-Trees, the way in which it is implemented in NTFS searches for the next available space, without consideration for the amount of continuous space <10> Which doesn't do anything for files that are appended to. Such as logs. <12> jblack: would you like to comment? <10> Not after you flooded, no. <12> i didn't mean to flood <12> was just saying what i'm thinking for the partitioning <3> and why do i see conflicting data about the "dir_index" option for ext2/3 <3> most sources say it is faster
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