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<0> ok, please check the security issues for each distro
<1> CentOS or RHEL for a server is what I recommend.
<2> okay thanks
<3> imac1701: what is the purpose of the server? can you really afford the clock cycles & time that it takes to emerge?
<2> yes, I can :P - MY server is just for Torrenting (hehe), Web page hosting (with no traffic :/)
<3> sheesh
<2> and file storage\backup
<3> wel then - use a distro that has emerge
<3> duh
<3> if it's for home use & there's time for that - then use gentto
<0> imac1701 well, install gentoo if you want =P
<2> okay then
<3> if there's a project due on your job - you really don't have time to watse building every single package
<2> gentoo it is ^_^
<0> I'm gentoo user =)
<1> Of all the years I've been surfing the internet I have never come across a professional web site that was on a Debian box.
<4> well, that's actually Ubuntu.. but it _was_ Debian
<3> what about www.debian.org ? :P
<1> Okay, so there is one out there.
<5> http://www.debian.org/intro/about
<5> :P
<1> Even kernel.org runs on the Fedora platform.
<3> Fedora isn't bas, as long as you know about fedoralegacy.org
<3> they provide updates for older version of FC (& even RH9)
<1> I just wouldn't want to run a testing OS on my server.
<1> That's just my personal opinion, though.
<3> me enither
<3> neither
<3> damn, I can't spell today
<3> I'd run FC or ubuntu on my desktop, most likely centos on my server
<6> What about *BSD? Or is that obsolete by now?
<1> Fedora on a desktop is the same as using Firefox 2.0b2 for your browser.
<1> soutane: I use FreeBSD for servers, but it's not Linux, so we didn't mention it here.
<6> Oh yeah, good point.
<1> I recently installed WhiteBox Enterprise Linux 4 Respin 1 on a server. It's rather nice.
<1> It's just a free edition of RHEL4.1 AS.
<1> (without the RHN support, of course)
<3> p3nguin: ever done anything with centos?
<1> I haven't had the opportunity. I would like to one of these days, though.
<1> I've heard it's nearly the same as RHEL.
<6> I'll be honest, I've never heard of CentOS before.
<7> you arent missing anything
<1> What's the correct way to use ccache when compiling my kernel? And how will I know if it works properly?
<7> you'll know it works as it will boot ;)
<1> It will still boot if ccache doesn't work, so that's not much help.
<1> I won't be using distcc, just ccache alone.
<1> Of course I could, and probably should be using distcc. I have just as much processing power on this box as I do the one I will be using for compilation.
<8> So, the crocodile hunter bit it
<3> p3nguin: there's a couple of places in 1 of the Makefiles that you have to edit in order to use ccache
<3> can't recall where, I haven't restored my linux system yet :|
<1> I'm looking at the Gentoo howto for distcc and ccache. I'm going to try following that and see how it goes.
<1> Will a standard 100Mbit Ethernet connection be sufficient for using distcc?
<8> Yeah
<3> it's either the top-level Makefile, or the in in arch/i386 - you set CC = cache gcc
<4> sound!
<4> I have SOUND!
<6> nivek: so what did you do to bring about this miracle?
<4> http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~bondhugu/alsamch.shtml
<9> iNgEr^NebUn: go away
<1> Using distcc and ccache, if I have gcc 3.4.5 on the server and gcc 3.4.6 on the client, will 'make' blow up?
<1> inger^nebun: You should know better than that. You can't come in here offering trades like that.
<10> hey p3nguin
<10> good afternoon
<8> p3nguin: Gotta love the babysitting, eh?
<11> hey all
<10> g'afternoon jblack
<10> hey chills
<8> hi there. Just wake up?
<11> hello .. its sleep time arround here
<10> i did
<10> hehe
<10> i was up all night..
<11> well its actually night
<11> in Pakistan
<8> linix: Yeah. I worke up less than an hour ago
<10> :/
<1> So I have gcc 3.4.5 on the server and gcc 3.4.6 on the client. It's not blowing up so far. Hope the kernel works when it's done.
<1> It's definitely distributing the compiler's workload.
<8> Chances are good with 3.4.5 and 3.4.6. They should have the same abi.
<1> The instructions said they must have the same baseline, but I didn't know what that meant.
<8> 3.4.6 should have the same functions with the same returns and same parameters.
<8> 3.4.6 will have bug fixes and may have extra functions that 3.4.5 doesn't
<1> Just as soon as it finishes compiling the first time I'm going to make clean and compile it again, just to see if the ccache works as it's supposed to.
<12> on gentoo i can tell you that integrating ccache is effortless
<12> and yes it helps tremendously
<1> It seems to be coming along rather quickly. It's already in the net section.
<1> causality: I decided to run distcc over one server and the client, plus use ccache. It's going well so far.
<12> yes now distcc sounded very interesting but i have not had opportunity
<12> the other two machines on this network are windows xp, unfortunately
<10> how exactly do people get your email address for spam?
<8> usually two of a dozen ways. One is by publicly publishing your email address (posting to mailing lists, saying "yes, show my email address), etc. Also, by giving your email address to a place that sells the name.
<10> but
<10> i open email accounts, and never give it to anyone
<10> next thing you know i've got 400+ spam emails per DAY
<1> Over the past two years I've never gotten spam to my webmaster@mydomain address. This year the domain name was up for renewel. A week after I got notices from my registrar I started getting a lot of spam to webmaster. That really pisses me off.
<10> hmm
<10> how do you reckon that happened?
<1> I'm really unsure about it.
<10> hmm
<10> maybe someone's sniffing their packets :P
<10> i just wonder if it has something to do with GMail
<10> i'm going to guess that they could theoretically just use bruteforce type method to hopefully get everyone at a given domain
<10> but...that would have a lot of failures, not that they would care..but wouldn't you think GMail would notice it and block them?
<10> hrm
<10> question
<10> i have an 80GB hdd
<10> can i split it up into 8 partitions?
<1> How is it possible that using a web-based reverse-ip search all hosted domains on my web server can be revealed?
<13> linix, seems rather silly and small
<10> poutine: why?
<14> any one has exploits
<14> here
<10> die joe^m
<14> ehehe
<1> joe^m: We don't do that sort of thing around here.
<10> poutine: slackware only uses maybe 3GB, that leaves me with 7GB
<13> well, first, hard drive manufacturers label a GB as 1000 MB not 1024 like it is properly
<10> reason i ask...
<10> poutine: i know
<10> but the reason i ask is because that way i could make 7 true 10GB partitions, use the rest for one swap
<1> linix: You can split it up into four primary partitions.
<10> and install different distros on each partition
<10> p3nguin: yes i know
<13> I think you're missing the point on this whole linux thing
<13> it's not a "collect them all" type deal
<1> Oops, I forgot to report on the time for the compilation.
<13> why do you want to have 6 or so linux distributions installed on this 80gb drive?
<1> 24m49.7s to compile a 2.6.17.8 kernel.
<10> poutine: i've been using linux for a long time, trust me when i say i have figured out what i like
<10> poutine: for testing
<1> I use VMware for that.
<1> I have Slackware as the real system, then I can install every other thing I want in VMware.
<1> I'd say under 25 minutes to build a 2.6 kernel is exceptional, wouldn't you?
<10> i've never used VMware, but was told it's a very bad resource hog.
<13> yes, but processors and ram are cheap
<1> Now I'm going to make clean and build it again to see how long it take using the ccache.
<10> hm
<10> p3nguin: can FreeBSD and Slack share swap?
<10> meaning could i do like a 35GB for each, then have just 1 shared swap?
<13> freebsd swap lies in a "slice" not its own logical partition
<13> so the answer is no
<10> ooh.
<10> i didn't know that.
<1> linix: No, because of what poutine said.
<10> i've only installed FreeBSD once, and it was 2-3 years ago
<10> i honestly don't remember.
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