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<0> and code in eclipse?
<0> is eclipse that much rich?
<1> you really dont know
<1> hmm no bother
<1> yes ecplise is
<1> and mad plugins
<1> even kdev does other languags
<1> and frankly the files are text files
<0> hmm
<1> any C/C++ ide worth the code its written in can do other languages
<1> as source files are just text
<0> but the capabilities of that IDE to be used for big projects matter
<0> means good debugging etc
<1> and?
<1> as if debuggins is just for big projects
<1> debugging is fine
<1> have you tried to do anything in kdev or eclipse?
<1> heck do a hello world and debug it if you like
<0> well i'm just downloading kdev and eclipse +... for my new ubuntu box.
<0> soon as they get integrated in my system, i'll try them
<1> why wait
<1> develop today
<0> :)
<0> as soon as they get downloaded
<0> backend compiler for eclipse is gcc?
<0> will i have to manualy integrate it or what?
<1> take care of
<1> taken care of rather
<0> hmm
<1> and any idea you can change the compiler if you like just aboug
<2> Eclipse is the best free java IDE
<1> FredPitcher: well its not just a java ide
<2> I didn't know it did c++ ?!
<1> goodness
<1> java, python, perl, ruby
<2> it can debug them all properly? that's cool
<1> and it has big backers in the eclipse foundation like PalmOne
<1> ibm
<1> lots of corporate support
<2> that's great news. Btu doesn't C have a great traditional IDE?
<2> java had a load of terrible IDEs before Eclipse came along
<1> FredPitcher: name it
<1> name that great C tradition ide thats open source
<1> and cross platform
<2> I don't know, i guess there isn't. But there should be!
<1> there is
<1> its called eclipse ;)
<2> eclipse is new isn't it?
<1> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/index_project.php
<1> no
<2> I discovered it 4 years ago.
<2> C has been around for a lot longer than that ;-)
<1> php, gef, cobol, c, c+= java, python,sql etc etc
<3> you discovered it? Like.. it was buried in an old mine shaft somewhere?
<1> Industry leaders Borland, IBM, MERANT, QNX Software Systems, Rational Software, Red Hat, SuSE, TogetherSoft and Webgain formed the initial eclipse.org Board of Stewards in November 2001.
<2> what were people using to debug C? Borland?
<4> gdb.
<5> some of us debug it the proper way
<5> inserting printf's all over the place!
<3> you gotta wrap them in ifdef's though, right?
<4> what's wrong with gdb?
<5> not if you're gonna remove them after debugging
<5> but yeah, if you want to leave them for long term debugging you do a whole #ifdef debug ... printf ... #endif
<1> FredPitcher: gdb
<1> FredPitcher: which is still used
<3> easier to change debug than remove thousands of printf statements though, is it not?
<5> depends how modularly you're coding
<1> or just switch to the debug version of your project
<3> vi has "projects" >
<3> did I mention that I don't like this keyboard?
<1> vi != ide
<1> vi = editor
<2> an IDE as a minimum has a debugger
<2> with breakpoints
<6> and at least access to run the compiler
<3> I know... I know... I wouldn't use vi for anything non-trivial
<3> dev wise
<2> webpage?
<6> for making conf file changes only :)
<2> or website ?
<3> speaking of vi, I just discovered something today
<3> :h 42
<2> the meaning of life?
<3> the universe.. and everything.
<2> hmm, it is!. I hadn't known about that command. I was kind of joking. though it doesn't suprise me that it's in there.
<4> at least no one has suggested emacs. :P
<2> funnily enough that does have a debugger of some kind
<2> i can't imagine it's very good though
<4> emacs can do anything.
<4> EmacsOS!
<3> emacs is a pretty good OS.. too bad it doesn't have a decent text editor
<5> hahah
<4> lol
<7> Hi all
<0> hi
<7> Now a days Which Distro is Best For Squid, Samba etc Related to Networking & security
<7> ?
<7> hi cipherd
<7> how r u?
<0> you gotta customize it.
<0> means whatever distro you choose
<0> like RHEL is good for corporate environment but ubuntu is competing good for server-line
<1> thats funny
<0> yeh.
<0> gotta laugh out loud
<1> RaHaGuZeR: best distro is the one you know and use
<8> too many guys asking the same question in freenode and here:)
<0> Dino it also shows that a hell lot distro are exposed to general public
<0> that's good
<0> *lot of
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