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<0> hah!
<0> i had a grilled cheese with honey roasted turkey slices in it yesterday
<1> My friends and I spent about two hours having a half-conversation in broken German with a Turkish kebab shop owner in Austria.
<2> Visigoth: Anyways...
<2> I suppose we could mandate joining a mailing list.
<2> That would probably sweep up the idle ops pretty well.
<2> That doesn't really do a whole lot to solve "jblack doesn't want to be stuck maintaining the site on his own"
<3> I'm sure more of the users will contribute.
<2> There are usually two or three that do.
<0> i can help but i'd like to be ***igned to a specific thing and only that.. not 2 or 3 different things each month :/
<2> Ok. How about working on the op and user guides for now?
<2> Something is better than nothing. If you get some ideas in there, that'll encourage people to help improve it.
<2> Lists have always been a problem. Its hard to know who's on the list and who's not.
<0> op and user guides.. it's hard for me as an op to write the guides for other ops
<3> jblack: Its probably best that you set the standard for op guidelines. Interex and perhaps another op could focus on a user guideline.
<3> brb
<4> how can i solve this http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20070203220858pz0.png
<4> im unable to use the network =\
<3> user0a: It would appear that you don't have the dhcpcd installed.
<3> Okay, it seems Gentoo no longer installs dhcpcd by default. Are you comfortable using emerge?
<4> Visigoth, im not a emerge expert
<4> Visigoth, couldnt download, abort (emerge dhcpcd)
<0> can you not use dhclient?
<4> Interex, i think i must use dhcp, im on vmware using nat, other times it function with nat and adsl-start
<0> ..ok
<2> Ok. I made a list that is mandatory for ops and optional for users. I put information at http://dalnet.merconline.com/mailing_list
<3> user0a: Well, we have two options. One is to manually configure it, or emerge it from the installation CD.
<4> manually =)
<3> ***uming of course its on the cd, I'm not overly familiar with gentoo and how they release their isos.
<3> You'll need to add your network addresses into the /etc/conf.d/net file.
<3> So pull that up in your favorite editor.
<5> I thought they went in /etc/conf.d/net.eth0
<2> Hmmm. I wonder if there is a way to manage mailman without a website
<3> Perhaps so HalfLostFrog, do you run Gentoo?
<5> Yep.
<4> is /etc/conf.d/net
<4> the only active line is iface_eth0="dhcp" other lines are commented #
<5> That is correct.. sorry.
<3> Perhaps the documentation I'm looking at is for a previous release. Have they recently changed it?
<5> It should be config_eth0=( "dhcp" )
<4> HalfLostFrog, maybe you think in something like rc-update add net.eth0 default
<5> according to the gentoo x86 handbook.
<5> I admitted I was wrong, user0a.
<3> user0a: Are you using a router? You'll need to pull up your ip address and gateway settings.
<3> Or the defaults vmware uses to contact your host operating system.
<3> If I remember correctly vmware creates virtual devices.. Its been a long time since I've experimented with it.
<4> Visigoth, i think is bad idea configure my system with static ip like in a lan, maybe with dhcp or pppoe like adsl-start script
<5> VMware uses DHCP for configuration.
<3> Well user0a you can try to mount the cd and emerge a dhcp daemon from there, or you can configure your interface staticly for a moment long enough to download the client.
<3> Can he pull the networking information from VMware HalfLostFrog?
<4> look my /etc/conf.d/net: http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20070203224231cz6.png
<4> ok, lets try with the livecd booting disc
<3> Wait.
<5> If you are using bridged, temporarily set it up with an IP address from your local LAN.
<3> Did you add dhcpd as an extra package when you installed it?
<4> HalfLostFrog, im using nat, that worked other times
<4> Visigoth, nop, i just added a loger and cron
<3> If you have the daemon installed, uncomment the dhcpcd_eth0= and replace the ... with -t 10.
<3> Okay, well from the first image you pasted /sbin/dhcpcd doesn't exist. You don't have dhcpcd installed.
<3> To install it, we can configure your net as static for now, you can emerge the dhcp daemon, then reconfigure it for dhcp.
<3> But as I said earlier, we need to know your network settings. Your ip and gateway. If you can pull that up we can proceed.
<4> Visigoth, for that how must be the virtual net device, right now is VMNet8 (NAT)
<4> Visigoth, yep, i can look at that with ipconfig
<3> So it's what, 192.168.0.2?
<4> VMnet8 (NAT): 192.168.178.1; VMnet1 (Bridged): 192.168.64.1 (accordinf to ipconfig com at win)
<5> Then chose an IP like 192.168.178.20
<3> Okay, so change the iface_eth0="192.168.178.1" then further down in the document change and uncomment gateway="eth0/192.168.41.1"
<5> He can't use .1, that's in use by the host system.
<5> and the gateway would be 192.168.178.1
<3> Oh, sorry.
<4> what about: ifconfig eth0 192.168.178.20 broadcast 192.168.178.255 netmask 255.255.255.0 up; route add default gw 192.168.178.1
<6> user0a - yeh try that
<4> the netmask, 255.255.255.0 or 255.255.255.255 ?
<5> probably 255.255.255.0
<3> 0 should be fine.
<7> is anyone here
<7> plz
<4> im going to try the command
<7> I have a friend who has a computer
<7> he has kubuntu linux on one partition
<7> winxp on the other
<7> he can't mount the ntfs partition
<7> it's not even listed in /etc/fstab
<8> Try typing more without pressing Enter as much.
<7> I'll do my best, however I would appreciate some help, this is quite irritating
<8> So is watching the channel scroll by.
<7> :-(
<5> For fedora do I need all four isos or can it network install what you don't have?
<3> Why ask a question and then just quit?
<3> I don't understand that.
<3> Did that work for you user0a?
<4> http://img119.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20070203230435vv4.png
<5> can you ping out?
<4> oh yeah! =P
<5> So.. emerge --sync and emerge dhcpcd
<3> And you should be all set then.
<5> You might have to edit /etc/resolv.conf
<4> mmmm, it resolv the ip but 100% packets lost
<4> i have fedora core 4 installed too, but i have a problem with libevent, something about not function including the try with -R option
<0> for everyone who hasnt seen here is a picture of ME just so i get it out and people can see who they talk with.. http://gallery.deathtrip.org/albums/Shane-Kayla/Kayla_Shane7.sized.jpg
<0> me and my gf actually
<0> ooo need the newer one.. brb
<0> http://gallery.deathtrip.org/albums/Kayla2/12_08_06_2251.jpg
<1> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/jeian/College/jeian.png <-- jeian the great
<0> i need to fix my tinyurl script
<0> jeian: yay good to see who you are now :D
<1> :D
<3> We ought to add a pictures gallery.
<0> Visigoth: i dunno if he wants to take up much space..
<1> "Faces of #linux"
<0> heh
<3> There we go.
<0> people who register to the site can add a pic to their info
<0> err
<0> yea
<3> Maybe a page can be done to spool all those pictures to one list or something. Hmm..
<0> you'll need to check constantly for new members and see if they uploaded a pic
<4> something is wrong, the ping resolves the ip but the packet erent transmited
<3> heh
<4> the emerge is connection timed out
<4> and i just use the ifconfig eth0 ... up; route ... gw; i dont touch the /etc/conf.d/net
<0> user0a: setting it staticly is very simple no need to really edit a lot of stuff
<4> Interex, what files i must edit?
<0> none
<4> i use: ifconfig eth0 192.168.178.20 broadcast 192.168.178.255 netmask 255.255.255.0 up; route add default gw 192.168.178.1
<0> you can just do broadcast 255.255.255.0
<0> it's good practice to use the device after the ip on using route
<0> route add default gw 192.168.178.1 eth0 but it works most of the time if you only have one device
<4> ok, im doint it
<4> i must delete the netmask?
<0> nah you dont have to touch it
<4> im going to execute this: ifconfig eth0 192.168.178.20 broadcast 255.255.255.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 up; route add default gw 192.168.178.1 eth0
<0> are you using gentoo inside of vmware?
<8> There's no reason to set the broadcast.
<0> when doing that with broadcast you dont need netmask
<0> eitherway
<8> If you set the IP address and the netmask ... the broadcast will be set for you.
<5> broadcast would be 192.168.178.255
<4> Interex, yep =)
<5> Like p3nguin said, IP and netmask.
<0> user0a: then doesnt gentoo come with dhclient?
<8> And for route, the interface is not needed.
<0> i didnt say it was required
<8> But you did say it was good to use when it's not necessary.
<4> Interex, seems not
<0> it is necessary for some people, maybe not others.
<4> =P
<8> Per the man page: "In most normal networks you won't need this."
<4> sorry, but then im going to execute this: ifconfig eth0 192.168.178.20 broadcast 192.168.178.255 netmask 255.255.255.0 up; route add default gw 192.168.178.1 eth0
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