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<0> Because Slackware is being good to us. <1> why? <2> I've had fewer problems with it than I have other distributions. That doesn't necessarily make the other ones bad, just means I favor Slackware. <0> Because, well, it's used by a hardcore super admin op guy and a retarded newbie. It works for all kinds of people. <1> ahh ok <0> Yeah. It just kinda works. <3> slackware is old <1> cant ubuntu do that also the_ruthless? <0> thejusticecow: I tried Xubuntu, and I'd say no. <1> i know it can be used by a retarded noob though as i am one <1> i use xubuntu <3> beyond server configuration (***uming hardware compatiblity) i don't see it very applicable. It is an excellent server, but that's where it ends <1> the_ruthless: what does it lack? <0> Slackware just installs so very easily, and after configuring X, I've been doing the things I've wanted to do. Xubuntu ****ed and caused me much pain. <1> ok <1> is it easy to get pkgs with slack?
<0> Cognition: I like Slackware much, much better than I like Debian. <2> Why do you need packages when you can get sources? <3> the_ruthless: that could be in part because of your familiarity with slack, however, i don't believe it to be the least bit "easy" when compared to other distros <0> thejusticecow: I tend to compile stuff. But there are package tools, yes. <1> ahh ok <0> I like the compiling approach better. <1> i prefer package because of the auto updates <1> i dont have to look for stuff <3> the_ruthless: both Debian and Slack are .. more geared towards mid-advanced users <1> isnt debian the one that everyone used to say "made for hackers by hackers" <0> Cognition: Probably. But it isn't "hard". Slack is easy, just not so shiny and "hey, look, we're super trendy and super friendly"-ish. <1> and now a dumb*** like me is using it <3> but slack's software packaging system and support is really insignifact against the HUGE community support provided by Debian <2> That doesn't make it inferior. <3> p3nguin: not at all <0> My Slack10.2 came with KDE 3.4. Debian came with KDE 3.3. They tend to over-do their "let all things be tested for a decade before we put it in". <3> but as i said, it makes it ideal for deploying servers <2> I don't use Linux for servers, typically. <0> Cognition: and when you think about it, in my world, I don't need brand new packages every other day, I just need the damned thing to work, and work damn well, without h***le. Slack does. <0> It makes, as time has shown, a damn fine old-hardware desktop. <3> the_ruthless: agreed, that's one of the disadvantages of Debian, although i heard they're starting to shift gears away from that. <0> Cognition: then it really wouldn't be Debian any longer. <0> p3nguin: what do you use for servers? <2> I don't like my distro telling me when I need to upgrade. I'll tell it when it's time to do that. <3> the_ruthless: oh yes it would, because you would still have the HUGE pile of packages available under your tips <2> the_ruthless: I prefer FreeBSD for servers. <3> the_ruthless: and a shortened life-cycle is still VERY long compared to other distros <0> p3nguin: I was guessing so. <0> Cognition: but, y'know, if I want fresh packages and such, I'd go for Gentoo. :D Compiling is good. <3> ouch <2> If Gentoo has a work-right-out-of-the-box installation, I might go for that. <3> i don't want to sit my *** forever compiling **** <2> I like to install my distro in 45 minutes and start using it. <3> and they talk about customization, give ma break <2> Then I can compile the things I want or need that were not included. <0> Cognition: I don't think it'd be a problem when I get a new system. It was kinda boring compiling the kernel on my 450MHz K6-II, though. <3> like ok, you add some changes in your ./configure or something, but still, not worth all the time and waiting <4> you can install gentoo in 45 minutes <3> how much faster would your program get if you compile it from scratch? probably insignificant difference <2> They have a work-right-out-of-the-box type of setup? <3> even on new computers, compiling something like mplayer takes 5 minutes <0> Cognition: Of course. Probably not very much. And I don't care. I like the attitude, of having NEW packages added, and compiling everything, as it is what I tend to do anyway. <3> the_ruthless: ok, so you're a little old fashioned then :) like using film instead of digital cams, nothing wrong with that, but it's not the most efficient way <3> it's just what you "like" and enjoy <0> Cognition: Interesting point. I've worked a lot with film because of my previous job, and I know very well in what ways it kicks digital pictures' ***. <3> ok, bad analogy :P <0> Not really. <0> Digital cameras are all good, and the pro SLR's are getting REALLY good, but still, there are uses for analog. There are things that analog do better. <0> I'll probably never buy film SLR, but I've used them, and I prefer my Canon EOS300D ("Digital Rebel/Kiss") for personal use. <0> Bottom line: neither way (package downloading/compiling stuff) is the ultimate best way. <0> Cognition: The scanner I used, costs about $16,000. :D Really neat thing. And I agree, 35mm film ****s ***. <2> emerald159: Tell me about your shoes. <5> covered with sheep dung ? <0> Stolen from a bum? <2> What ever happened to evenfl0w? <2> hmm <2> Weird! <2> (22:35:03) <@p3nguin> What ever happened to evenfl0w? <2> (22:36:59) -!- That_Guy [~upirc@c-67-181-205-224.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #linux <6> hello p3nguin <0> Same person?
<6> yeah im evenflow <2> How'd you do that? <0> Perhaps he's got some skill we just don't know about. <2> Some of that ESPN or something? <6> had to change names because i pissed off a script kiddie <0> Is there actually some way to NOT piss of script kiddies? <6> lol. <7> hey peeps? how would mysql react if i ***ign a negative integer for a incrementing key? <0> c0lgate: there is an active #mysql on EFnet. <7> thnx <8> c0lgate : Learn to type, wouldja? That crap is so AOL! <6> i usually dont irc in windows. ive been in windows alot latley. playing this kick *** free game. <0> What game? <7> hahaha <2> #MySQL is also active on Freenode. <6> are you talking to me? i cant type very well because im on a pda <0> That_Guy: yeah. <9> what are the alternatives to using switches and hubs and crossover cables? is there another way to network besides buying switches and hubs or just connecting my devices with crossover cables? <6> oh. the game is called space cowboy. http.://sco.gpotato.com <6> its good for a free game. <2> fedt: peer to peer via wireless or infrared <6> you can run it through wine if you have the hardware. <0> I don't have the hardware, that's for sure. <0> Link didn't work, either. <9> what's infrared? <6> well if you have windows give it a shot. <0> Heh... Guess why I'm in this channel. :D <2> fedt: InfraRed is like how TV remote controls word. Some printers, most PDAs, and I think every laptop has an IRDA on it. <2> work <6> well i run linux and windows. so you having windows isnt oiut of thw question <9> i know what infrared is, but i don't know how it networks <2> oh <6> try http://sco.galanet.com or http://sco.gala-net.com <0> That_Guy: My main computer actually went dead early in June. Dragging old monsters out of the closet, I tried WinMe for a while, decided it ****ed and that it was a great time to switch to Linux anyway. <10> someone speak spanish :s ? <6> brb <10> someone speak spanish :s ????' <0> Nope. <9> !no espanol! <10> why not espanol :s <0> English or broken english would be good. <9> ich spreche deutch <9> except spelled right <0> Even though our main broken english translator is probably at work now. <10> i have a problem with debian :s <0> And what is your problem with Debian? <10> i cant install mode graphic :( <0> You don't get X? <10> nep <10> how to? <0> Have you configured X? <9> deutsche <9> og jeg snakker norsk <0> Norsk er gy. <6> so anyways anything new p3nguin? <2> That_Guy: Not too much, really. <2> That_Guy: So how did you do that? I asked what happened to you and then you instantly popped up. <10> :s how to install mode graphic :s <10> debian-testing-i386-binary-1.iso <10> etch <6> p3nguin...good timing i guess. <0> funeral_: if you haven't configured X, Debian runs XFree86. Read up on it. www.tldp.org probably has some guides and/or howto's. <6> just been testing this pda irc client. <2> You'll need to "apt-get install xorg" or something similar to that. <6> so....yeah...good timing <9> xorg -config <0> p3nguin: AFAIK Debian uses XFree86. <2> That would be only if xorg is installed. <2> Well, we need someone to tell us what the package is that installs whatever default X server it has. <2> I'm not familiar enough with it to know. <0> Isn't there some spanish Linux channels he could go to, anyway? <6> do locate xorg.conf. if you cant find it you use xfree86 <6> wait...maybe not <2> #linux.es if anyone is there
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