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<0> this bcm chip is terrible, even in windows
<1> thejusticecow: Does it remain in the tray?
<2> thejusticecow, is it in the "tracy ?
<3> nope
<2> tracy
<2> tray
<2> speaking of her.. she has food for me
<2> later
<0> nivek: what about this.. can you personally testify to the (supposed) fact that atheros chipsets will obtain a longer range than conventional wlan chipsets?
<4> nsx_: I can.
<4> I've seen it do 2.2-2.4 kilometers.
<1> I can do that with my Orinoco.
<0> and what kind of distance were you getting before that? and with what chipset?
<1> The antenna is the important piece here.
<4> p3nguin: Interesting. Same madman that did the 2.x kilometers thing with my Atheros card, actually has an Orinoco card himself.
<4> Antenna is really important.
<0> apparently the chipset is too, since some give you up to 6 dbi of gain
<0> via amplification
<1> But if you put that 100mW with an internal 6dB into a 24dB antenna...
<0> also some chipsets are tuned more to get the best throughput, not the best range
<0> and others are tuned for exactly the opposite
<0> (yes you can adjust your rate to get better range, but the fact still remains)
<5> Amazon has the WORST book shipping service ever !!
<6> Al-Ashtar: i have no problem with their shipment time
<5> I was stupid to put International Shipping
<5> how the heck can I track that !
<4> Spy satelites.
<6> which currier service youre using ?
<5> International Mail
<5> usually I get'em using fedex or dhl. but this time I said "Hey, let's try regular mail.!!" bad choice
<6> Fedex or DHL .. is good .. or UPS
<6> yeah
<5> I know
<6> those three even have refunds policy if your goods got lost on the way to you
<0> p3nguin: i've tried using my wrt54g as a client, to try to access other waps in the area, and i've been very unimpressed, even with external antennas (i've tried both omnidirectional and unidirectional)
<0> (the wrt54g uses a bcm 4320, iirc)
<1> I only use mine as an AP. I've never tried to use it to connect to others in the area.
<5> Routermen: http://www.al-ashtar.com/Screenshot.png
<0> oddly enough, i don't get much of a difference just using the stock antennas it comes with
<4> Al-Ashtar, my man, I love you and all, but... You are being obsessive.
<5> about what ?
<0> 18:11:51 up 1:37, 6 users, load average: 0.14, 0.10, 0.08
<0> Battery 1: discharging, 75%, remaining
<0> i guess that's not too bad
<4> Al-Ashtar: I saw your screenshot. They were ALL Ubuntu.
<0> i haven't actually tested to see how long this laptop will last on battery power under an idle load
<5> yeah. because I'm running ubuntu ?
<4> o-b-s-e-s-s-i-v-e.
<1> Over the perimeter of a one acre site with the WRT54G and stock antennas in a house I don't have any connectivity problems at all using a laptop.
<0> it just seems that with the broadcom chipset in this laptop, i get disconnected entirely too much, or don't get the signal strength i should
<1> Using ndiswrapper?
<0> even at school, i don't get great strength, which is unexcusable, because there are aps in every hallway
<0> yes, it's the only option i have
<0> the 4318 chipset isn't fully supported by the kernel bcm43xx driver, yet
<1> k
<0> monitor mode is supported, but you can't communicate with an AP unless you're like two inches from it, using the bcm43xx driver (well known issue that they're supposed to be addressing)
<0> so for now, i'm stuuck with ndiswrapper
<0> *stuck
<0> i have to use the bcm43xx driver if i want to use kismet, but that's *all* it can do
<1> I've tried my texas instruments chipset with the wrapper and my orinoco/prism chipset with the linux driver and I get about the same range and throughput. Of course this is not under strict testing, just normal use.
<0> i'm told that the radio in the broadcom chipsets doesn't stack up
<0> but i'm far from an expert in that area myself
<7> i hate not having access to the router im using lol
<7> i cant set port fowarding ;D
<1> Tunnels?
<7> hm?
<1> Maybe tunnels are the answer.
<0> do what?
<7> i dont know if that will help if fowarding is disabled as a default
<1> Tunnel OUT, not in.
<0> reverse tunnelling or something
<7> i dont know anything about tunnelling
<7> im leeching cable from the next door neighbor
<7> and i want to be able to ssh into my box
<6> port forwarding or remap
<7> i cant foward cause i dont have access to the router (changed default p***word)
<7> forward*
<6> NateDogg: then you have to be a good neighbour and ask their permission 1st :)
<1> Not that I would ever do such a thing, but if I was in that situation I would simply login on the router and fix that.
<8> services doa?
<7> p3nguin i cant, they changed the default p***word
<7> lol
<7> i tried
<7> :P
<6> you can set tunneling as p3nguin said
<7> ok, ill have to read up on it
<6> make a staging server on the net
<6> tunnel your box to the staging server
<1> I'm not going to get into it, but there are a few ways around that problem.
<6> and you can access the staging server before accessing your box
<8> I've noticed that linksys aps like to reset a lot.
<7> p3nguin into the router?
<1> no
<7> it is a linksys router :)
<5> OR you could ask your neighbor to forward 22 to your LAN IP
<6> Al-Ashtar: he tried that but to no avail
<8> Which drives me crazy when I play wintendo
<7> lol i doubt they would want me stealing the internet from him
<7> let alone help me ;)
<6> a friend in need is a friend indeed ?
<5> who the hell comes up with those phrases ?
<9> a friend helps you move, a real friend helps you move bodies
<6> lol
<1> here here
<5> anyway
<5> it's 5:30 AM
<5> time to sleep
<5> later
<6> byee
<8> sleep well buddy
<7> :(
<10> hi can anyone help me with an iptables problem
<11> ask the real question
<10> i made some changes to my iptables and i need to save them so that they are still in the table on reboot
<10> how do i do that
<10> as the situation stands my iptables are wiped lean on every reboot
<10> *clean
<11> which means the default policy is really allow for all chains
<10> i dont follow
<11> well iptables has policies and chains
<10> i put iptables -I INPUT -s 123.456.789.0 -j REJECT i want this rule to be in the ip[table permanently how do i do it
<11> if no rule is matched at the end of a chain the default policy is applied
<10> yes
<11> well to make life asy
<11> simly set the input policy to drop
<11> then you dont have to tell it to drop particular people as it drops everything
<11> http://cancel.kicks-***.net/public/guest/iptables.txt
<11> http://cancel.kicks-***.net/public/guest/howto/iptables
<10> no i want ot block only 1 particular site not all
<11> actually you do
<11> but nothign i'm goign to debate with you
<10> im sorry i dont understand if you could elaborate a little further id be grateful
<11> well again iptables basic
<11> iptables has chains
<11> if no rule is matched in a chain the default policy is applied
<11> honestly you should deny everything
<11> then explicitly allow
<11> not allow everything and then explicitly deny
<1> Block all, allow some.
<11> exactly
<11> not allow all, block some
<11> be back in a bit
<8> aaaaaaaa
<4> bbbbbbbb
<4> Just following the trend, since I fail to use Ubuntu and Firefox and am not very fond of "hit music".
<3> what do you use?
<4> Slackware.
<1> Me too.
<4> Because Slackware is being good to us.
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