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<0> geek is bad or good ?
<1> based on that concept, no need for linux and all that headache :)
<1> just stick with windows
<1> or no no
<1> i take that back
<1> bad analogy
<2> I love Kate, though. It was just what I was looking for. Syntax highlightning for PHP, CSS and HTML. And so ***y.
<0> this is the second time you advice people on going back to windows :P
<3> Al-Ashtar: Is good, she's a gamer.
<0> ooh
<2> And the WinMe, that would be the obvious choice for this hardware, just won't do, Cognition. ;P
<0> xarius: have you seen Stay Alive ?
<4> I'm putting together a 3d map of the world and I've come to a conclusion....
<4> The US needs to bomb more countries, not less
<0> LOL
<1> xarius is an exception on #linux, i would be most of #linux users are single LOL
<1> be/bet
<2> jblack: I could actually agree.
<3> Cognition: I dunno, quite a few are married.
<1> xarius: oh boy, no comment.
<0> I'm married
<4> actually a lot of the regular people here have a relationship of some sort.
<0> xarius: have you seen Stay Alive ?
<0> the movie
<3> Al-Ashtar: No...
<0> you should
<2> Cognition: I used to have a girlfriend for over two years. After she left, I just thought I'd look for that really incredibly special someone.
<0> you really really should
<5> or at least had and are divorced, now.
<6> mmmmmmarlboro :D
<1> me ! kidding
<1> i'm a free bird
<0> xarius: it's about a game that becomes real
<1> i don't eat apples every god damn day
<0> simmyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
<3> Al-Ashtar: Game-type movies are rarely good.
<0> how was your vacation ?
<0> xarius: this one _IS_
<3> Al-Ashtar: Only thing close I like is .hack// series of anime/movie/game/books
<0> it's a horror movie too
<6> PM might be a communist company but they sure know how to make cigarettes :D
<0> how ever you die in the game
<0> is the same way you die in real life
<0> wouldn't want to mess up the movie for you
<1> the_ruthless: there is no such a thing as really incredible special someone :)
<0> watch it
<0> it's called Stay Alive
<1> the_ruthless: you should definitely lower your expectations :)
<3> I'll see if I can find it.
<0> xarius: http://us.rd.yahoo.com/movies/info/lnav/trailers/?http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808746583/trailer
<2> Cognition: I'm too young to have given up yet. ;P
<1> the_ruthless: there is an incredible *** perhaps, but not incredible someone
<2> Cognition: and if I can't find her, I'll just go without.
<0> xarius: I can't see the trailer :((
<1> Al-Ashtar: why not?
<3> Yeah, flash seems to have replaced actual streaming movies for some reason.
<0> not flash
<1> i see it here just fine
<2> Cognition: but when I've reached your age, I'll probably have a much different view on life.
<0> Cognition: can you see it ?
<1> of course
<0> Cognition: what application is showing it ?
<1> mplayer
<1> my favorite media player :)
<1> and the geekiest for many unfortunately
<6> is there a way to connect to windows shares though a terminal?
<4> Not many linux questions these days.
<4> Guess its too easy to install.
<0> how did you make it play the trailer Cognition
<2> jblack: yeah, it should be made harder.
<6> jblack i dont run linux ;P
<1> NateDogg: you can do that with samba
<4> the_ruthless: That, or people should experiment with more stuff. ;)
<6> ok
<2> jblack: I got mocked all the time when trying to install Gentoo. ;P
<1> Al-Ashtar: i installed a plugin for mplayer
<0> I have that installed already
<0> :(
<4> That's because gentoo is a bit of a joke.
<1> Al-Ashtar: what's the name of the plugin?
<2> jblack: and why be that?
<7> BacKo
<0> mozilla-mplayer
<4> Because code is not like hamburger. It won't go bad just because its been in the fridge for a week.
<8> View movies in Firefox?
<1> Al-Ashtar, nah, get red of that one
<3> hehe
<3> I ran LFS for like a year :/
<2> jblack: but would an updated OS be bad?
<0> Linux From Scratch :)
<4> being current is good.
<1> Al-Ashtar: the best one is mplayerplug-in
<1> yes LFS LFS LFS LFS
<0> see I'm starting to understand what you guys say
<1> i love it
<4> The only thing gentoo gives you is lots of experience typing "make"
<1> LFS, truly, get rid of all those grumpy distros and go with LFS
<2> Personally, I see that for certain things, old distros work. My file server actually runs Mandrake 9.1. Never updated at all.
<3> LFS is interesting, but high maintenance.
<3> I'm tempted to try Ubuntu, I've done the whole Gentoo thing now.
<2> But for the desktop, some feeling of using the latest is good.
<1> xarius: but you learn loads!
<6> Al-Ashtar i was meaning to do that but never got around to it (LFS)
<3> I just want a distro to use now.
<8> xarius, ubuntu is cool
<3> Cognition: Nah, not really, you just get an idea of what is system critical and what isn't.
<8> I just installed ubuntu for a local author
<3> I'm downloading an iso now.
<1> xarius: not for me, putting the pieces togethor taught me quite a few things
<8> he is happy and impressed at what the free software movement achieved
<1> I've been using free software for years, and i'm impressed on a regular basis by the achievements that happen there
<1> the apache project alone is something to pause it!
<3> It's getting there.
<0> Cognition: Note, selecting mozilla-mplayer for regex mplayerplug-in
<0> mozilla-mplayer is already the newest version.
<1> Al-Ashtar: do you want to run the trailer or not :)
<0> yes I do
<2> I still want to see it as a possible platform for doing graphics design and print. And actual 3D/OpenGL drivers for our gfx cards.
<1> Al-Ashtar: i use mplayerplug-in :)
<1> the_ruthless: 3D drivers are not our problem, it's hardware problem
<1> the_ruthless: graphics design is very advanced on linux, check Blender3D
<6> argh, maybe i shouldnt have rebuilt my source tree, cause now i cant use packages. Compiling crap on a 1.2ghz celeron ****s :(
<3> Aren't a fair few high-profile films edited etc. using Linux?
<1> the only even possible way to write 3D drivers is through reverse engineering, which isn't nice nor very productive
<1> xarius: yes, including Titanic
<2> Cognition: haven't we discussed graphics design before? Graphics design for print, the old Mac/Adobe camp, y'know.
<3> ATI and nvidia have decent enough drivers.
<1> the_ruthless: oh, you mean 2D graphics:)
<1> xarius: all proprietary
<3> Cognition: so?
<1> xarius: so, we don't have free alternatives to run any 3D apps
<2> 3D drivers may be a hardware problem, but as long as there aren't any drivers for Linux, though they are available for Windows and Mac, it WILL be a Linux problem as well.
<0> Cognition: I get this when I sudo apt-get install mplayerplug-in
<3> Cognition: You don't *need* one though.
<1> xarius: so when it comes to 3D and linux, we're trapped in the proprietary world
<0> Note, selecting mozilla-mplayer for regex mplayerplug-in
<2> ...when thinking of gaming, XGL, and so on.
<3> I don't feel particularly trapped.
<1> Al-Ashtar: remove the mozilla mplyaer
<6> i dont like liunx, it doesnt "do it" for me anymore ... :/
<6> linux*
<0> I did
<2> xarius: earlier today, they tried to convince me that the drivers from ATi and nVidia are bad.
<0> Removing mozilla-mplayer ...
<0> ali@Ubuntu:~$
<1> NateDogg: nobody asks you to like it, but it's one of the fastest growing operating system right now
<3> ATI and nvidia are very good with their support. We don't need an alternative, because I doubt that anyone could write better drivers than the people who know the hardware anyway.
<1> xarius: that beats the concept of openness though
<6> personally i think its heading to a bad direction
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