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<0> qball: The behaviour does not change between VMs/CPUs etc.
<0> The implementation may, but that's the JVM's business, not ours.
<1> am bored in these channels. ciaos
<0> For example on most computers, given two byte values, it is better to put them in a 32-bit block each, because 32-bit addressing is faster than 8-bit addressing on 32-bit systems.
<2> ie, printf("an int is %d", sizeof(int));
<2> in C
<2> how would one do that in java
<0> qball: printf("an int is %d",4);
<2> so it's not possible?
<0> It's a constant value.
<0> Would you like a method that gives you the number 5?
<2> is there a const value defined somewhere?
<0> int giveMe5(){return 5;}
<2> ie, INT_SIZE ?
<0> qball: In the JVM spec.
<0> No Java program would depend on INT_SIZE, so the constant does not exist programmatically.
<0> There would be no use for it.
<2> Well, the values are bound to eventually change with a new jvm/spec
<0> No.
<3> blah
<2> 15 years from now, i doubt these values will be the same
<4> Such a spec would have a different name then. c# for example.
<0> Maybe Sun will define new types, or change methods that use int to make them use long instead, etc.
<2> either way, that was one of the longest pathes to a quick awnser i have ever seen
<0> Changing int would be stupid in Java, because Java programs depend on the range of int.
<0> C programs don't, unless they're written badly
<0> qball: "you look at the spec" is quite a fast and accurate answer.
<2> no way to accomplish that goal is pretty quick too
<2> looking at the spec was outside the scope of the question
<2> i had already done that
<2> that doesn't help me get that value in an application
<2> dynamically...
<2> i guess your awnser was a reiteration that java is a language tied to a single platform
<2> the jvm
<2> so such things are nessacary
<2> s/are/aren't
<5> mumblemumble
<5> on the plus side, I got a rice cooker for . this is so cheap, I feared for my life as I plugged it in.
<5> provided it does not burn down the house, it will offload my two top stove
<5> the third is broken
<6> Mary24 is a spamming bot
<6> Carla14 is also a spamming bot
<0> Freezy: Stop spamming.
<0> ;)
<6> N U
<6> nou*
<7> Somone who have experience with J2ME and USB?
<6> j2me, and usb?
<7> Yes i will send some Datastring to my PC by USB and J2ME
<6> i don't know if you can do that
<6> j2me is very restricted
<6> most phones wont even support file system access
<7> hmm
<0> I just updated my "me" website for the first time in a couple of years: http://cime.net/~ricky/
<8> looks good
<5> so the dryer kept triggering the grounding fuse. I found an extension chord without grounding, whittled it down so it fit into the plug, and then hooked it up. now it works.
<5> now, how likely is it that this will catch on fire within the next two years
<9> koala, what in the hell
<9> are you trying to kill yourself?
<9> you may know java, but get a damn electrician to fix that crap right
<9> if you dont know how
<9> and yes, it is highly likely to catch fire
<9> also, if the fire department catches you doing that and someone besides you dies, that is manslaughter charges
<5> haha
<0> Criminal negligence in the UK I think.
<9> especially since you are obviously not a licensed electrician and have apparently never read any electrical code book
<5> *laalalalalal if I can't hear you it's not illegal*
<9> well, its not illegal until you get caught
<9> but practically, your method is on the extremely bad side
<5> would you think it would hold out for semi-frequent drying for two years?
<9> thats not the issue
<9> the issue is how quickly your house or apartment will burn down to to the improper grounding
<5> yes?
<0> Maybe stay near it, and know where the main electricity switch is.
<0> Or set up an ejection mechanism to throw it out of the window.
<5> I doubt it will burn down while still being able to dry
<9> problem is once electrical fires start in a wall, they are hard to put out without an axe
<5> except for the actual burning, which will probably be very dry
<9> so be prepared with a fire extinguisher and to tear out your entire wall
<0> drake2: Why would it start in the wall if you had a fused plug?
<9> draw to much current, it heats the jacket of the wire
<0> That's what fuses are for.
<0> To stop that.
<9> but he said he got rid of the ground
<0> He did wh....
<9> and you trust him to have a good fuse?
<0> Come to ##java on freenode so that I can kick you, koala_man.
<5> ok
<0> Hah, he did it.
<9> no matter how you look at it, its not safe by any decent electrical standard, except maybe the Honduran standard
<9> haha
<5> isn't the ground mainly for not electrocuting yourself?
<9> Hondurans did some word high power lines
<9> wierd
<0> The ground is to 'soak up' excess current.
<0> If you have a leaky water pipe, towels are good.
<0> If you have **** electrics, grounds are good.
<0> koala_man: You should come to ##java anyway, it's nice.
<0> The coffee's not so good though.
<5> has it improved since #java?
<0> What did you dislike?
<0> Answer that I can answer you.
<0> +and
<5> everyone was talking about java all the time
<0> It's still **** then, yes.
<5> :(
<5> I'd probably get kicked just for creating a fire hazard.
<5> in fact, I was
<5> with free software, you can find different parts and interoperate them, but when you do it with electrics it's all "waah waaah criminal negligence, waaaah fire death"
<0> With free software it's omgwtfGPLBSDWTFomg
<0> And you can't get an electrician, you have to fix it yourself.
<0> And don't think about complaining, just be grateful to have the broken software.
<5> lolomgbsd
<5> ricky_clarkson: so you teach at a christian school?
<0> Not really.
<0> They come to me, I teach them.
<0> I've been there once, when they had to stay there for some photographs.
<9> now just a second, I have seen free software that says I cant run my nuclear reactor on it
<5> ricky_clarkson: so do you make a point of saying that it's intelligent design that creates these child cl***es, not some random process?
<0> koala_man: No, I tell them that I'm atheist.
<0> The school is more bothered than the students. I think it's pathetic.
<5> haha
<9> no religious preference is the politically correct workaround.
<0> I prefer no religion. Not quite the same.
<9> I know, they always take no religious preference as you want to go to 15 churches instead of you may be an atheist
<0> Right, time to go and DJ.
<9> I told some Mormon girls once, that I could check out the Mormon bible in the college library and that didnt make them happy
<9> then I realized how hot they were after they were already gone. :(
<9> I mean really, I could have faked being Mormon for a while, right?
<0> "I'm a moron. Does that help?"
<10> Hello I need help converting a VB app into Java
<10> Can anyone give me some tips
<5> I tried twice, but I wasn't able to produce an edible bernaise :(
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