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<0> sup guys
<0> koala_man!
<0> The_Vulture!
<0> Kp_!
<0> Two-Bits!
<1> caverdude~
<1> !*
<0> I may mess around with MIRC scripts today
<2> hello
<0> hello
<2> has anyone played games like runescape? what would i need to lookup to start making a game like his, for example, is this known as an RPG game?
<3> hmm
<3> I'd call that a roleplaying game, indeed.
<3> You'd need extensive knowledge of realtime client-server apps, ..
<3> argh
<3> I'd call that a roleplaying game, indeed.
<3> You'd need extensive knowledge of realtime client-server apps, 3d animation, applet/java web start development, game mechanics of a successful RPG, etc..
<3> Event based queueing systems
<3> pies.
<3> ;)
<2> :-E
<3> ?
<4> ?/
<3> i dunno
<4> paki
<4> oi LinearB ****weed
<3> ?
<4> ?
<3> why did you call LinearB a ****weed?
<5> Zenethian: he's looking for a way to get kicked i guess
<3> Heh
<0> hi LinearB
<5> Hi caverdude
<5> wazup man?
<0> working on a protected page servlet
<0> I'll give you a link if I get it working
<0> p***word protects one page
<5> nice! ill be glad to try it
<0> Have you noticed that when you dataentry an example how much more meaningful it is
<0> it means more if you have to work for it
<5> ****
<5> im on my back batteries !!
<5> damn storms
<5> cu later man
<5> backup
<6> argh, do Sun deliberately make cl***paths the most problematic they can?
<3> How do you find them problematic?
<6> "not working" problematic. for instance: I have "proj2cce.jar" in the current directory, and a heap more in dist. I can see that proj2cce.jar contains com.qdc.proj2cce.Proj2CCE - even the manifest file correctly finds that that's the main-cl*** when I run java -jar proj2cce.jar
<6> still fails to find the cl*** though (NoCl***DefFoundError)
<6> same when I do java -cl***path proj2cce.jar com.qdc.proj2cce.ProjCCE ... even if I specifiy the jar as .\p.jar, p.jar, c:\dev\...\p.jar ...
<6> -verbose doesn't show ANY of the cl***es in any of the jars I've specified as being found (though I've currently stripped it down to ONLY loading the single jar, even though it relies on others)
<7> which cl*** doesn't it find?
<6> com/qdc/proj2cce/Proj2CCE in this case.
<6> (which I can see is definately in the jar)
<7> echo $CL***PATH
<0> ugg
<0> myjavaserver won't let this example run because they don't allow writing files
<6> cl***path should be overridden by -cp/-cl***path though. %CL***PATH% just containts jdk1.5\lib
<0> I tihnk
<0> think
<0> so I'm going to have to spend more time working around this
<7> why does it contain that?
<7> are you trying to break everything?
<6> it shouldn't matter what it contains. -cp is supposed to take precedence over %CL***PATH%
<7> you're the one who has the problem
<6> that still doesn't explain why it's a problem.
<7> of course it's a problem
<0> hrm
<7> some random action that coincidentally destroys things is a problem
<7> I ***ume it's not random, so why is it set to that?
<0> I wonder why it won't let me create a file, no maybe its that I have to manually create the file
<7> is there any reason?
<0> it allows uploads I don't see why a servlet couldnt write a file
<7> caverdude, is it under a SecurityManager? or are you running it locally?
<6> dibblego: yes, there's a reason: the reason is that it shouldn't make a difference.
<7> that's not a reason, since it does make a difference
<6> maybe so, but why is it. Environment variables are supposed to have lower precedence than those directly specified.
<7> the misunderstanding is beside the point; it should never be set to that, not ever
<7> one might look into the -bootcl***path option
<7> until then, don't set it, *especially* not to what it is set to
<6> for your info, that's what the JDK installer sets it to straight out of the box.
<7> rubbish
<7> I need need incorrect info
<7> I don't need even
<7> six conversations at twice
<7> next time you have cl***path problems, start by looking at the java.cl***.path system property from within the application
<7> since then you are within a pure Java environment and isolated from the operating system
<6> oh dear that's laughable. And in no way helps with the problem. Wow the hell can you look at a 'true' representation of what it is set to when you can't launch the application in that environment.
<7> you really are a silly person aren't you?
<7> umount the high horse friend
<7> it is not Sun, it is not the cl***path itself - it is you
<8> hehe
<8> dont be too hard on him dib :)
<7> my primary objective is problem solving
<6> you're really showing no understanding of the problem OR solution yourself. Not one thing you've said shows that you actually even CLAIM to have an idea how it works - whether how you believe it works or not is correct! Rather than just talking **** again, why not acutally say something which might explain how it DOES work.
<7> whatever it takes to shed some light
<7> or not
<7> you really are quite silly
<7> I'll wait for you to stop being silly
<7> then we will proceed
<6> no, I'm not. I'm telling you how Sun's docs say it is supposed to work...
<6> you're saying that's not true - but not actually correcting me, or that understand, or anything at all in fact.
<6> you're just saying "you're wrong"... and not showing that you even have any understanding of the subject matter yourself.
<7> if you don't understand my suggestion, say "I do not understand"
<7> I don't give a **** who is right or wrong
<7> now get off that high horse
<7> I cannot show why you're wrong if you act like a ****ing idiot
<7> since I simply refuse
<7> I will wait for it to cease
<6> Then explain a simple question: What is the order of precedence, as you understand it, so I can at least start there. If you can't even correct me rather than just telling me I'm wrong, then stop insisting you're right.
<7> I already told you, that is irrelevant
<7> aren't you interested in solving your problem?
<7> trust me, it is irrelevant, or don't trust me, and I'll go away
<7> you have no other choices
<6> I don't believe it's irrelevant because you've given me no reason to believe it's irrelevant.
<7> but that's the thing
<6> other than your say-so which so far has no rationale behind it whatsoever.
<7> you have made the elementary mistake
<7> you have no choice but to trust me
<7> we can worry about irrelevant things later, don't you think?
<6> I'm convinced you just like arguing and deliberately trynig to not solve problems now :)
<7> good for you
<7> have you printed out the system property yet?
<7> or you still wanna stay up there?
<6> clearly you don't listen or believe what you're told: It cannot be done in a relevant environment since -cp does not find cl***es specified where they are.
<7> you're right, I question all forms of authority, and I certainly don't believe untrusted sources
<7> I won't believe you - who has the simplest of problems - tell me that I cannot do something that I have been doing for years
<6> I seriously fail to understand what the point of anything you've said is, since all checking java.cl***.path has helped do is prove that it does in fact work the way I already knew it to, and completely ignores the 'CL***PATH' environment variable
<7> I give up, you win
<7> go and have your cl***path problems that I don't have, ever :)
<6> dibblego: just because you know how to fix a problem doesn't mean you understand it.
<7> I understand it
<7> remember, I was once paid to understand it
<6> *once* paid. Every time you speak, I am less and less inclined to believe that you 'left' your job.
<7> I still am - since I teach noobs who hit that problem all the time
<7> believe what you will - some of the things you believe are a little amusing
<7> you think I'm still at that stinking **** hole?
<6> no, I know very well that you're not.
<7> how do you know?
<7> what are you on about anyway?
<7> four_YOU, please do not privmsg me
<9> when m using an inputstream, how do i check for a space, i cant seem to get this working: InputStream is = this.getCl***().getResource***tream("hello.txt"); int b = is.read(); if (b==' ') System.out.println("space found");
<9> this is j2me btw
<7> that does an implicit character conversion - which is potentially dangerous
<9> ive used if ('!')
<7> cast b to type char
<9> successfuly before
<0> sup Gaz``
<7> actually, you don't need to do that - what you have will work
<9> doesnt seem to diggle go, if i system out b its always 60 ?
<9> hey caverdude!
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