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<0> ....except that tons of people worship buddha as a god
<0> except for that part, yah
<1> No they don't - just many ignorant people misunderstand who the Budha is.
<1> He is NOT a god, never claimed to be.
<0> hasn't stopped people from worshipping him and making statues of him, now has it
<1> Yes it has - it's not the Budha but his teachings that are "worshipped"
<1> Monks must seek a life of poverty to guard against vanity.
<1> You won't see the Thai "Pope" riding in a Rolls Royce, he isn't even allowed to wear underwear :-)
<0> i don't see how that guards against vanity
<2> haha
<0> either you want stuff or you don't :P
<2> compromise ensures sincerity, though, at least to a certain degree
<2> when I petitioned to do civil service instead of military service because of moral objections, for example, I agreed to serve four months longer than I would have served as a soldier
<1> It seems to work quite well here, the current situation is very trying when you have an obviously corrupt governer in need of being ousted...
<0> MrNECROS, so its kinda like the government of every other country, you're saying :(
<1> ..but he has the whole "democracy rigged" like Marcos.
<2> or Bush
<1> Not really, the government here has additional safeguards.
<1> Namely the Monarchy and The Church.
<1> The military are also there but they do not see the need to intervene now.
<1> As the matter is purly internal.
<3> the monarchy didn't save Japan from the bakafu
<2> hey Xiph, have you already seen "V for Vendetta"?
<1> bakafu ?
<3> bakufu, my bad
<2> tent government
<2> the emperor was a figurehead, the real power was with the military
<1> Power shifts amongst the 4 or 5 powers of influence in most countries.
<1> Except in communist systems where there is only 1 power.
<2> it's really sad... I believe the best thing we can have right now is representative democracy. in the future, we may be able to let people be involved more (through electronic polls, maybe). but any kind of democracy requires an educated public
<2> and right now, neither here in the US nor in Germany, I would say, do we have an educated public
<2> I'm mentioning the US and Germany because those are the two countries I'm most familiar with
<1> Correct - control of media and education is the cornerstone of communism.
<1> George Bush is doing a really good job of turning the USA into a communist state.
<4> um
<2> no, not a communist state
<4> do you know what "communist" means?
<2> it's a plutocracy. some form of oligarchy
<4> it doesn't mean oppressive and militant
<1> 'fraid so - I have studied the subject to great depth.
<2> rule by the few... mostly wealthy individuals or corporations
<4> well then you're an idiot, because there is no communism here.
<2> there was no communism in the Soviet Union either
<1> It is the "economisation of humanity"
<4> Communism = a society where no one person has any more power than another and all work cooperatively to support eachother.
<2> communism is the wrong word
<1> Communism is first and foremost a lie, it does not have a fixed methodology:
<2> if we could somehow make communism work, I would support it. with limited resources, I don't think it's in a human's nature, though
<1> You compare the styles of communism in China, Libya, North Korea etc...
<0> maybe once the machines are supporting us
<2> MrNECROS: none of those countries have communism
<0> and none of us have to work :)
<4> No, I'm going by the exact definition, not by how it's been implemented elsewhere
<1> Scaler - you are kidding me right? These are all communist countries.
<0> china is a republic
<0> look in the name
<0> people's republic of china
<1> There is no exact definition for comunism, it is a deliberatally broad framework.
<2> they call themselves communist -- they aren't
<2> Xiphoris: republic and communist aren't mutually exclusive
<0> I wasn't being serious anyway... :P
<4> communism Audio pronunciation of "communism" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kmy-nzm)
<4> n.
<4> 1. A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members.
<4> 2. Communism
<4> 1. A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
<4> 2. The Marxist-Leninist version of Communist doctrine that advocates the overthrow of capitalism by the revolution of the proletariat.
<4> Sounds like a pretty straight definition to me.
<1> I know nobody likes to listen to the CIA these days but I think they might know a thing or two about these countries...
<2> but regardless, these countries are not communist. they are oligarchies -- a small group rules the m***es
<1> http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/
<2> *sigh*
<4> even the entymology of the word "Communist" means "a person who lives in a commune"
<2> MrNECROS: do you not understand what communism is?
<0> commune... ism
<0> there is no commune
<2> Iraq had elections; Saddam Hussein was re-elected every few years. he says it was a democracy... was it?
<0> it does look like an oligarchy to me
<2> just because someone says something doesn't make it true
<4> heh
<4> it's not a democracy when you kill anyone who runs against you. :D
<0> exactly
<0> watch
<1> A commune or a union is a larger entity that can act as a single unit, the question is then what to do with these larger units.
<2> it might be a democracy
<0> Zenethian is not a homo***ual. see, i said it, but yet it's not true
<4> :O
<2> it has a very bad criminal code or corrupt executive and judicative if it lets you get away with it, though
<2> here's something weird: whenever I read or see something about either Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union, I'm strangely fascinated... both somehow have a strange, dark attraction to me
<2> does anyone feel the same?
<2> maybe it's like the Klingons or the Harkonnen... evil is just cool :)
<4> :)
<5> Communism and Fascism are both derived from the same sources and both use most of the same techniques...
<6> Whats your point?
<2> theoretically, fascism and communism are miles apart
<5> They differ in only one respect, Fascism is based on the priciple of "eternal struggle" between opposing forces...
<2> communism gives equal power and wealth to everyone
<2> fascism was authoritarian
<0> especially those with no skills
<6> Theoreticly theory, is theoreticly Theorized.
<0> they definitely get equal power
<2> however, the so-called "communist" countries were pretty much authoritarian
<2> Xiphoris: have you seen "V for Vendetta" yet?
<2> sorry if you already answered that
<0> nope
<0> havent seen it yet
<2> it's Good with a capital G
<2> :)
<5> And Communism is about creating a giant super-being encomp***ing all enties on earth.
<5> V for Vendetta looks interesting.
<2> I saw it at a preview screening for free
<2> it was funny... Warner Bros. had some giant bouncers dressed up in suits
<5> It's already on the market stalls here on VCD but not in the cinema yet...must be good.
<2> and they almost screamed at us, "do not video-tape this. if we catch you video-taping, we will throw your *** in jail. we will prosecute you!"
<5> LoL!
<2> I was tempted to shout back "you do not have the authority to prosecute. you can only press charges"
<5> Tell 'em they are too late.
<2> but I think they might have kicked me out of the movie theater then ;)
<2> the preview screening was co-promoted by Clear Channel Radio :P
<2> you could win stuff if you named all the radio stations Clear Channel has in Houston
<5> Must be hard to stop the new hand-cams, they are so small.
<2> I wanted to say something like "5 frequencies, but really only one station"
<2> Tox: but who wants to watch videos recorded with a video camera?
<2> I can understand that the music industry is slightly upset... they are actually generating less revenue than in the past
<2> the movie industry, however, is still expanding, AFAIK
<2> the MPAA is just joining the RIAA bandwagon
<2> and why is the music industry making less money? here's a thought: less variety than in the past
<5> It's nice to be able to see a film and find out if it's **** before you shell money to find out its rubbish.
<2> read reviews online. it should at least keep you from seeing complete trash
<5> The marketing and hype that surrounds most films now makes it hard to know what you're getting yourself into.
<2> of course you can't trust marketing
<5> A lot of the reviews on line are deliberate misinformation..I found this out with Aeon Flus (which is actually VERY good)
<2> I thought Aeon Flux was rather bad
<4> I really liked it
<4> in an abstract sort of way
<5> What didn't you like about it - I've not met anyone else whoes seen it yet?
<2> it was another visual style *********ion movie
<5> It's not "mainstream" stuff so I can see a lot of people not liking it.
<2> I really liked the MTV cartoons
<4> was there something else?
<5> Had some very inteligent stuff in it, paticularly anti-communist/NWO stuff.
<2> no, only the ones on MTV
<7> is there a way to refer to a typedef in a templated base cl*** without explicitly writing base::?
<7> example: template< cl*** T, cl*** Policy > struct Something : public Policy::Specialize< T > { Iterator foo; };
<8> octothorpe, not from within the template if the base in question is dependent on a template parameter, except by adding a typedef.
<7> to fix this problem i have to explicitly "typedef Policy::Specialize< T >::Iterator Iterator" for each typedef. is there another way?
<7> ok, thanks
<8> You're having fun with two-phase lookup. It's designed to solve the problem where you call "swap", meaning to reach std::swap, but accidently hit an inherited swap.
<8> ...for example.
<8> Whenever you're using a name from a template-parameter dependent base cl***, you need to use a member access expression if possible or else qualify it with the name of the base cl***, or else you won't find it except unless it's an operator that can be located through ADL.
<8> The irony here is that VC doesn't even support 2PL :P
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