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<0> they didn't give weight at ALL to how well it was designed
<0> you could have the worst structure ever, and if it had comments on every line and p***ed the tests, A+
<0> that sort of emphasis made me doubt very much the potential of university CS departments to teach me anything
<0> but, I took cl***es at Rice anyway and was very pleased
<0> mark twain once said, "never let your schooling interfere with your education". that bit of wisdom is very important
<1> same here in our EECS department, they have this stupid autograder thing
<1> with random test cases, and you submit it and it grades you based on the test cases
<0> if you want to become an excellent software engineer, you will do it on your own time, and university will contribute... not the other way around
<0> watv, companies will look extremely favorably on any successes you have independently
<0> for example, I started the Cosmos UI mod for World of Warcraft, which won some awards
<0> and from what I can tell it's won a lot of points for me in interviews. hell, it's gotten me some interviews :p
<0> I got an email from a guy last year basically saying "i use your mod. it's good. wanna come work for me? send me your resume."
<1> lol sweeet
<1> engineering takes up all my time, hard to get spare time
<2> have a whinge
<0> hmmm, really? take fewer cl***es, if possible. there's no reason to rush through things
<0> |-Wraith-|, whinge is a verb :p
<0> watv, unless you're trying to graduate early (why?) take the minimum number of cl***es to graduate on time
<0> also, I would suggest you pick one of your two majors and concentrate on it
<0> having free time is important
<0> and if you want to stay in CSE, you can use your free time to very important ends
<0> writing your own projects in free time is extremely important to your progression as a software engineer. don't neglect it, if that's what you want to do
<0> if you want to be the best of the best, you need to live and breathe software ;)
<3> hmm, wonder if I could replace my respiratory system
<1> that is true!
<1> do you think algorithms and data structs cl*** i'm taking is a waste ?
<0> no
<0> but it depends on what you want to do with yourself
<0> as much as I hate to say it, you need to understand that stuff
<0> and if you don't know exactly what you want to do, it is best to learn it
<0> a lot of that stuff really isn't important to what people do
<0> I don't think I have written a single "aglorithm" in all the industry stuff I've done... but, that's only been about 3.5 years, so what do I know?
<0> but a principle rule of computer science is: whenever possible, steal code
<4> hmm. there's a bunch of terrorists loudly talking in their primitive language somewhere
<4> :P
<0> this means that some guy is going to come up with the best/fastest/most efficient way of doing something
<0> and everyone else will use his library
<0> scalar, by terrorists do you mean muslims? :P
<4> no, just dirty-*** foreigners
<3> like them damned germans!
<1> i'm muslim ;/
<4> Chinese, Japs, Indians...
<3> sieg heil!
<3> ;p
<0> watv, what do you think about that cartoon?
<4> Eastern European, Jews, Muslims... all these"things"
<3> it's utter blasphemy!
<0> well, the germans are the worst of all foreigners
<3> blow up Danishland!
<0> they try to kill everyone. even their allies.
<3> mmm, danish
<3> now I'm hungry
<4> noo!
<0> the germans should be all put in death camps and executed :P
<1> well, it's very insulting.. but if we were to criticize everything a person does then we'll never live in peace
<5> stupid germans killed me in Wolfenstein
<0> o wait
<0> maybe not
<4> I need my LEGO
<5> but I showed them, with /god mode
<4> IDDQD
<5> IDSPISPOPD
<5> Smashing Pumpkins Into Small Pieces Of Putrid Debris, yeah!
<4> BUILD SUCCESSFUL. Total time: 13 minutes 35 seconds
<4> yaya
<4> good, and the Windows build p***ed as well
<5> what are we building?
<0> Dr Java
<0> tequilla!!!
<4> that means I can finally get away from these ching-chang-chong talkers
<0> let's work on Murk :) :) :)
<5> enisoc!!!
<5> err
<5> ok :)
<0> lol
<0> does anyone else want to help work on Murk? :)
<0> it's a programming language meant to look like an IRC log
<0> http://www.xiphoris.com/murk
<3> esoteric ?
<0> yeah, that's the word
<0> I kept thinking "eccentric, no wait, that's wrong
<0> "
<0> it's an esoteric programming language
<1> ok i'm off to do some hw
<1> thanks A LOT Xiphoris for all the info
<0> sure
<1> and scalar as well
<1> thank you
<1> goodnight all!
<3> i still wish I could do a Piet compiler, heh
<3> at any rate. sleep time
<5> FuIru doesn't sleep
<5> he just lurks, and when you least expect it - wham! PRIVMSG to up the line-count
<3> that's only in #C
<5> FuIru: 'night :p
<3> ther'es no eggdrop in here anymore counting, hehe
<6> www.Xiphoris.needs.a.hobby.com
<0> I have one, many in fact, and they're already on www.xiphoris.com :P
<0> programming is one of my hobbies
<0> swimming and cycling are others
<0> besides that ... hmm... does drinking/drugs count?
<0> oh, video games :)
<4> Xiphoris, tequilla: so how's Murk going?
<5> taken a new direction, in the way of syntax
<0> we're discussing it at the moment
<0> yeah, we've decided that making it ASM-like will be easier and more pursuant to our goals
<4> blasphemy!
<4> how is IRC anything like ***embly?
<0> join #murk and find out :)
<7> what's murk?
<7> oookay
<0> Zenethian
<0> wtf?
<0> how did you talk after you left
<0> oh
<0> lol
<0> +nt :p
<7> ;)
<7> I r klevar
<4> m
<4> ****head
<7> did I freak ya out?
<7> ;)
<0> only for a moment
<0> I'm confused
<0> why does wiki software use SQL databases?
<4> I still *am* confused
<0> wiki is an application that is so obviously key/value based
<0> you have a key, and it gives you a bunch of text. where's the need for SQL?
<4> but I don't really like wikis
<4> I think I took it off my website again
<7> I like Wikis when used properly
<4> eye eee never?
<7> And MediaWiki seems to use SQL only for usernames and stuff like that.
<8> anyone in here farmiliar with the MYSQL C API?
<7> yes
<8> I'm writing a proggie in vs 2003, when I compile I get 2 errors from mysql.h, one from my_socket fd; says SOCKET missing storage-cl*** or type specifier, and one from my_connect(my_socket s) says SOCKET undeclared identifier
<8> I really can't follow the code in the mysql.h, those lines are just listed as #define 's, any idea if I can easily fix it?
<5> include winsock2.h and link with ws2_32.lib
<5> #include <winsock2.h>
<8> err, and my_connect() actually takes 3 params, but the my_socket s is the one that the error is about
<5> #pragma comment(lib, "ws2_32.lib")
<8> cool thanks! let me give that a shot :D
<8> lol, hmmm, now I get like 68 errors :D I've never had a problem with the api and a gnu compiler, but vs just doesn't like it :(
<8> yeah, when I include the winsock2.h and add that #pragma line I don't get the original error, but I get 68 errors from winsock2.h
<5> did you include <windows.h> before it?
<8> probly not, lol, I'm not used to using these windows libs, hold on
<5> include <windows.h> before <winsock2.h> - if you still get errors, include <winsock2.h> after any other includes
<5> or is it before? :) I've been including psl.h for so long I've forgotten
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