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<0> Hm. I think there should be an "Autumn Olympics". Britain seems to be crap at the Summer and Winter Olympics.
<1> heh
<1> evening James
<1> i prefer Autumn hop ale though :)
<2> howdy everyone
<1> hoia a hoi
<0> Hiya Mikael :)
<3> sup Rethguals
<0> Welcome back, tench.
<3> thanks
<2> ouch... that ****s: http://www.collegehumor.com/pictures/150561/
<0> Hm, they have tags now.
<3> holy
<2> yeah... check out the tag that I'm currently examining: http://www.collegehumor.com/pictures/public+nudity/1600489/
<0> I figured it wasn't bicycles.
<2> hehe
<2> girls and sports, maybe?
<3> http://www.collegehumor.com/pictures/95577/
<3> I wonder if that's real.
<0> I saw tha too... I wonder what that copper coin is.
<0> Does America have copper coins?
<0> I didn't think so.
<2> pennies
<0> Oh.
<0> ...and what do they weigh?
<3> haha
<2> maybe 7 mm in diameter?
<3> Actually..
<3> I'm almost definate
<3> that there is copper in all of our coins.
<2> definite*
<3> whatever
<3> I spell things however I want.
<0> scalar: certain.
<3> ya ya
<3> I have poor spelling and grammar.
<2> definately ;)
<3> haha
<4> well work on them :)
<4> make them better
<3> I see no need.
<4> they are very important for people to take your ideas seriously
<4> well, that's too bad for you
<3> As long as you can understand what I mean, then it doesn't matter. ;)
<4> if you ever work with other people, having bad spelling and grammar will make you look stupid
<4> yah, it does matter
<4> maybe not on IRC
<4> but if you have a job and you write emails or memos or reports or *anything* that other people read...
<2> oh gawd... OH GAWD... http://www.collegehumor.com/pictures/public+nudity/58514/
<4> having poor spelling and grammar will make you come off as an idiot
<4> poor spelling and grammar is disrespecting people who read what you write
<4> ... you want to make it as easy for them as possible
<3> lmao
<3> Why?
<2> because you're not making an effort to write correctly
<3> Our president can't spell his own name... why should I be worried about my spelling?
<4> the president has nothing to do with you
<2> but it's ok... we still love you, tenchiko ;)
<4> if you don't bother to spell, you'll look like an idiot =P
<4> that's the bottom line of it
<3> haha
<4> it's sad when all these technology people think that spelling and grammar don't matter.... they do, no matter what field you're in
<4> communicating with other people is always important
<4> correct spelling and grammar... and even an articulate vocabulary ... make you come off as an intelligent person :)
<4> better for getting promoted
<3> "make you come off as an intelligent person"
<3> yeah.
<3> It's a way for stupid people to pretend like they're smart.
<0> Er... no.
<5> HUHUHUH SPEELING R NOT IMPORTINT U R JUST A JERK FOR MAKEING FUN OF ME
<3> It really is.
<3> hahahaha
<4> spelling alone won't make you seem smart
<2> ok, maybe spelling and grammar don't show intelligence, but they show education, and education and intelligence are correlated
<0> Getting things right isn't a way to pretend to be smart.
<4> but a lack of it definitely will make you seem stupid
<3> Rethguals: but people do.
<0> What?
<5> Right, speaking properly makes you seem educated, speaking eloquently makes you seem intelligent.
<3> I can show my intelligence in other ways.
<0> How do you think intelligence works, exactly?
<5> And speaking like a douchehead or using extreme 'internet' abbreviations makes you seem uneducated or lazy.
<4> and uneducated or lazy -- whichever it is, both are bad
<0> I consider a big part of it to be the desire and ability to get a variety of things right.
<2> xtr3m3 int4rweb abbrvns.
<3> I don't use internet abbreviations.
<2> huh-huh, huh-huh :)
<3> Excluding some acronyms, of course.
<5> Commonly accepted acronyms, like AFK and such, are not the target of what I consider bad speech.
<3> Of course.
<5> Though some purists even hate those.
<3> But I don't use "u r" etc.
<3> u r laim
<3> haha
<0> Situations like IRC demand less precision and a careful choice of shorthand... but not everything is an IRC channel, and there are limits.
<3> Of course.
<3> If I was writing something professionally, I would proof read.
<5> The one that really perturbs me is "neone" as if you can't just write out "anyone" already. hah
<4> people act like writing on IRC makes it OK to spell things properly, so they can be lazy.... well, if you know how to spell in the first place, it's not any extra effort
<3> But, when it comes to a casual conversation, I don't see it as being important.
<4> s/properly/
<4> improperly/
<4> there's a difference between taking the effort to proof read, and knowing how to spell in the first place. there's a difference between knowing how to spell and making a mistake, and not knowing how in the first place
<4> intelligent people I know generally learn just how to spell in teh first place
<4> so it's not 'extra effort' to spell properly on IRC... or in any medium
<0> That's true; I was suggesting that we need to tolerate mistakes because there's less time to correct them.
<4> ya
<4> but mistakes like the 'teh' i just typed are different than people who say... well, I dunno...
<2> what I don't understand is why people don't remember the mistakes they make
<4> "definately"
<4> a lot of people spell it that way
<4> exactly, scalar
<2> "definately" is one of my pet peeves. I probably correct that once a day
<4> I feel embarrased if I spell an obvious word incorrectly :)
<2> yet I'm certain that they'll do it again
<4> I don't care if I make a typo...
<2> now, that certainly is lack of intelligence
<3> I disagree.
<4> definately
<4> truely
<4> some of the most common ones, I think..
<2> your/you're, their/they're/there, two/to/too
<3> I just really don't care what people on IRC think of me.
<2> haha, nice excuse
<3> Oh, I usually get those right.
<4> but that's the thing
<4> maybe you don't care what people on IRC think of you
<0> Basically, my only problem is with people that aren't curteous enough to attempt a proper sentence, or are apathetic towards being correct.
<4> but if you know how to do it in the first place, getting things "mostly right" on IRC is no extra effort
<3> I know.
<3> I don't speak and spell that badly, for someone from my town.
<2> haha
<3> Most people I know don't correctly use 'seen' and 'saw'
<4> I think I spell and speak correctly because I read a lot... not necessarily because of any particular education I've had
<4> I'm generally quite cynical and negative towards education
<4> :/
<3> Depends on what sort of education.
<4> even college
<4> especially high school
<3> When it comes to school, I think their methods are poor.
<4> before high school, I don't remember learning *anything* useful that's stuck with my besides math
<2> who is "they"? ;)
<4> math is the only subject I actually "learned" in K-8
<4> maybe we should replace school with lots of reading, and a single math cl*** :)
<3> scalar, those who write the lesson plans.
<2> I learned proportionality in 7th grade. that was probably the most useful single piece of knowledge
<3> Most of what I have learned, has been self-taught.
<4> i remember spending almost an entire year having long division taught to us
<2> my math teacher absolutely drilled us with those things: "three pounds of carrots cost $4. how many pounds can you get for $7?"
<4> and we'd have sheets of long division problems we had to do
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